I came to the conclusion that it was the rubble from the demolition of Norton Cannock Colliery just a stone throws away

Agreed Roy, the NLS mapping website is a work of genius.

I can happily spend hours looking at old rail lines, mine sites, abandoned communities that were associated with them, etc.

What we need is another genius to combine NLS sidebyside with LIDAR.

Jim

The genius already has! In the right-hand screen menu 'Select a Map Series', there are DTM and DSM models at 2m and 1m resolution:

🔗120883[linkphoto]120883[/linkphoto][/link]

What we need is another genius to combine NLS sidebyside with LIDAR.

Jim

The genius already has! In the right-hand screen menu 'Select a Map Series', there are DTM and DSM models at 2m and 1m resolution:

🔗120883[linkphoto]120883[/linkphoto][/link]

Thanks pwhole,

I hadn't noticed that ability to change from the current satellite image option, another thing to play with, though a 3rd tile to allow all three, map, satellite and LIDAR at the same time would be good.

Jim

My belated excuse is that it was only added in August last year... work, Covid, DIY overkill blah blah...:flowers:

The fact that I didn't even notice it on your thread about Gleadless is clearly FAKE GNUS

Well I dont know about that, but I am finding some interesting stuff. Although not archaeological as yet.

I was intrigued by Cannock Lodge , not far from here, and its sophisticated underground haulage system. Only a small colliery really. It seems that mechanisation was more advanced at the collieries than a lot of the metal mines, at least in the mid 19th century. I pondered on this then realised that obviously coal, the source of power, was dirt cheap at the pithead. But became expensive when transported half way across the country.

Also I am finding collieries owned by the firms that consumed the coal, in effect what we now call a"vertical market". Example is Sneyd colliery, again not far from here, originally owned by Willenhall Furnaces. There was an amazing logistical infrastructure involving the railways and the canals here in the midlands. And more so in what is called the "Black Country" which was term coined by Queen Victoria in that everything she saw was black, with the amount of coal being burned to power the local industry.

Disappointingly little left. all covered by housing and industrial estates nowadays, but one never knows.
A phrase from 28DL of all places comes to mind -
"Deep in the woods where nobody goes"
If there is anything to find that is the place to look, I think.

What we need is another genius to combine NLS sidebyside with LIDAR.

Jim

The genius already has! In the right-hand screen menu 'Select a Map Series', there are DTM and DSM models at 2m and 1m resolution:

🔗120883[linkphoto]120883[/linkphoto][/link]

Cheers for that, didn't even know that NLS had done the lidar side

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Well I dont know about that, but I am finding some interesting stuff. Although not archaeological as yet.

I was intrigued by Cannock Lodge , not far from here, and its sophisticated underground haulage system. Only a small colliery really. It seems that mechanisation was more advanced at the collieries than a lot of the metal mines, at least in the mid 19th century. I pondered on this then realised that obviously coal, the source of power, was dirt cheap at the pithead. But became expensive when transported half way across the country.

Also I am finding collieries owned by the firms that consumed the coal, in effect what we now call a"vertical market". Example is Sneyd colliery, again not far from here, originally owned by Willenhall Furnaces. There was an amazing logistical infrastructure involving the railways and the canals here in the midlands. And more so in what is called the "Black Country" which was term coined by Queen Victoria in that everything she saw was black, with the amount of coal being burned to power the local industry.

Disappointingly little left. all covered by housing and industrial estates nowadays, but one never knows.
A phrase from 28DL of all places comes to mind -
"Deep in the woods where nobody goes"
If there is anything to find that is the place to look, I think.

You’re right about integrated business In 1914 Birtley ironworks owned 10 local pits according to the Durham mining museum. (A resource we are lucky to have). There is also a local village called Perkinsville, named after the local coal owner in the 1840s.
Considering that I live in the middle of the Great North Coalfield there is very little to see, though the old maps do help in finding what might be left.

I can make myself invisible like a ninja.