Peter Burgess
9 years ago
"Carter" wrote:

People need facts not speculation, opinion or misleading information.



On the whole, AditNow members are pretty good at facts. It should be encouraged.
Sweetie
9 years ago
"Carter" wrote:

^ ^ what do the smileys mean ?



Because, as normal, you're being provocative! Why don't these people demanding answers;

a) Come online and request clarification themselves

or

b) Deal with it off the forum

Instead of getting a keyboard warrior onboard
Carter
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9 years ago
There's no point posting info on here unless it's accurate. Do you disagree ?

Troglodyte, Luddite, Maybite.
Sweetie
9 years ago
That wasn't the point being argued Nick
Carter
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9 years ago
The guy who's name was brought up Isn't on the Internet.
I phoned him because I wanted to know about dye tests.
I can ask anyone here a question about anything they write, why shouldn't I ?
You say "as normal, I'm being provocative"
So what if I am ? Back this up with all the evidence
keyboard warrior ?
Yawn.
This is now at risk of going off topic.

Troglodyte, Luddite, Maybite.
Blober
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9 years ago
Seeing as no one has said it.

Thank you RockChick for putting this information up.
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Ian A
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9 years ago
Nick,

In view of the obvious deterioration of this matter I think it is better in email.

I was careful not to identify anyone publically but gave enough information for you to know who I was talking about.

You already have my email address.

Ian
A door, once opened, may be stepped through in either direction.
Sweetie
9 years ago
"Carter" wrote:

You say "as normal, I'm being provocative"
So what if I am ? Back this up with all the evidence



With pleasure, perhaps the most recent being the MT discussion on UK Caving. I don't really want to pick a scab by posting the link on here but I'm happy to forward it to you in private if your memory has failed you

"Carter" wrote:

Yawn.
This is now at risk of going off topic.



I completely agree!
Peter Burgess
9 years ago
Never mind the gates, or the possible (or not) unauthorised activity in a SSSI, I reckon this is the most challenging part of the NRW letter ;)

"If permission was to be granted for exploration following construction of the grill, we would wish this to be open to all the caving groups to work together."

Sadly.


NewStuff
9 years ago
"Peter Burgess" wrote:

Never mind the gates, or the possible (or not) unauthorised activity in a SSSI, I reckon this is the most challenging part of the NRW letter ;)

"If permission was to be granted for exploration following construction of the grill, we would wish this to be open to all the caving groups to work together."

Sadly.




Well, if you keep shoving your nose in and stirring things, then no, nothing is going to get sorted.
Searching for the ever elusive Underground Titty Bar.

DDDWH CC
Peter Burgess
9 years ago
Indeed sir Mr SOS, it's all my fault. I admit it.
Sweetie
9 years ago
"Peter Burgess" wrote:

Never mind the gates, or the possible (or not) unauthorised activity in a SSSI, I reckon this is the most challenging part of the NRW letter ;)

"If permission was to be granted for exploration following construction of the grill, we would wish this to be open to all the caving groups to work together."

Sadly.




Most of us want nothing more than to be able to work together Peter, however, I would contend that just a few turds in a reservoir are enough to persuade one not to drink from it. 99.9% of the water may be excrement free, but that doesn’t help! 😞
NewStuff
9 years ago
"Peter Burgess" wrote:

Indeed sir, it's all my fault. I admit it. Get a grip you fool.



Again, how about you stop poking your neb in and stirring things?
Searching for the ever elusive Underground Titty Bar.

DDDWH CC
Peter Burgess
9 years ago
"Sweetie" wrote:

Most of us want nothing more than to be able to work together Peter, however, I would contend that just a few turds in a reservoir are enough to persuade one not to drink from it. 99.9% of the water may be excrement free, but that doesn’t help! :(



Yes that's an excellent way to put it. However, one man's turd is another man's water lily - which is probably not such a good analogy. I just saw one floating past..... :lol: (water lily, I think)
JohnnearCfon
9 years ago
Pistols at dawn? :lol::lol::lol::thumbdown::thumbdown:
Peter Burgess
9 years ago
p155 holes at dawn. Found outside a caving hut on snowy Sunday mornings.
BertyBasset
9 years ago
Thought I was on UkCaving there for a second.
Peter Burgess
9 years ago
Well, it's about caves innit.
solomonkey
9 years ago
sadly ? how do you mean ?¿
NewStuff
9 years ago
"Carter" wrote:


Do we know who's been digging in there and have they been advised to stop until the situation is resolved ?



"Carter" wrote:


Are there other letters to the one in the original post which is the same as the one I have received.
The only reason I ask is that it says NRW is aware that people have accessed the swallow hole and excavated materials.
I cannot find any reference to minerals .




Now, a Cynical person would think you've been having a good old, shovel enhanced, poke about down there, and are worried about being caught when you know full well you shouldn't be... and are now trying to manipulate the topic into descending into the usual ****-flinging clusterfuck that is the end result, and deflect attention away from yourself.

http://ukcaving.com/board/index.php?topic=15561.0  ), given that I outright told you that you were a Liar.

You do have a history of obfuscating the truth, given the "no access" line you were peddling until you realised that pretty much everyone in N.Wales knew you were operating in there and had been for quite some time, with a good chance you never actually stopped using the system.

If you want to come on to a forum and get all arsey, expect it back. I was, earlier in the thread, saying how good relations had been recently, and you come wading in and shit all over that notion.
Searching for the ever elusive Underground Titty Bar.

DDDWH CC

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