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RRX
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14 years ago

#61

Would be up for giving a hand if needed also

www.carbisbaycrew.co.uk Cornwall's Underground Site

minerthom
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14 years ago

#62

Hi guys

we will be moving the headgear soon with a crane etc

we will then be in a position to decent into the mine safely

We do so need as much help as we can get from you guys to help move the headgear and put it on the ground for resto and then to be put back,

I fyou drive past you can see the work going on buildings repainting etc

please please contact us we need help and hands on help

the head gear only has i see it about 4 weeks max left as it moving daily inch by inch if i cant get a few of us together it will fall and drop

got a crane now need help

also does anyoen know what the decline was on the side of the gear on the wall ???

jason

[email protected]

07809640839

stuey
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14 years ago

#63

Either on ME or here are my 2007 photos from when everything was as it was.

I might mosey over after I've done some work.

minerthom
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14 years ago

#64

Hi can anyone help i really badly need some chain about 33meters in two sections of 15m or so 8mm or 10mm anything will help

need to secure the headgear asap

please even if you know someone who might help lend us some chain for a few weeks

RRX
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14 years ago

#65

Are you trying to anchor the headframe with the chain? if so may i suggest using rope or maybe wire rope as a heavy chain may have the opposite effect and cause more problems

www.carbisbaycrew.co.uk Cornwall's Underground Site

minerthom
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14 years ago

#66

The whole idea of no using rope is because it will move when its windy chain does not have the movement. A professional crance company is dong the work

Tezarchaeon
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14 years ago

#67

The sound of this is all pretty worrying.

What's to say that the headgear won't collapse under the stress of it's own weight when lifted by the crane?

derrickhand
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14 years ago

#68

that would be my concern also. Headframes are not designed to be lifted in this fashion.

plus ca change, plus c'est le meme chose

stuey
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14 years ago

#69

It was lifted into place by a crane.

Having a close look at it, one of the uprights has compressed locally at the bottom, the rest of it looks good, apart from the bottom horizontals, which are very sad indeed. If you tied it together properly it should be ok.

Putting a rope around it and lifting it as is, is likely to end in tears.

Having had a chat with Jason, I'm confident in his ability to see that the headgear is restored and the site sympathetically looked after. Nice bloke with a get-it-done attitude.

minerthom
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14 years ago

#70

yep, thanks stu

With no funds and only the kindness of other people then hey the best will be done,

OR Maybe it best to let it fall to the floor and have done with it please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

minerthom
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14 years ago

#71

As someone said to me today, if it wasnt for me and the help of others the oldest and most original headgear remaining would be left to rot and fall, please positive replys only please im doing my best and i aint stupid, theres a big metal frame being built around it by sj andrews and then ready to lift, metal chains are being used as straps would flex as the frame moves in the wind and we want to take the weight off the legs that are rotten.

did you know if the headframe was left another 2weeks she would be on the ground in a heap.

minerthom
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14 years ago

#72

o and also if head frames were not ment to be lifted in this way then why did sam leach lift it there from another mine the same way we are ????????? 😉

mikebee62
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14 years ago

#73

I worked for concord tin mines at the tolgus tin site in the early 80s , great to see you doing something to save the head frame, I was told it origionally came from Nangiles mine, Im sure someone on here can confirm if that was correct. Oh I wouldnt expect to find too much Tin down there if you get into the workings Lol. 😉 its a long story !!!

'Of cause its safe, just dont touch anything !!'

derrickhand
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14 years ago

#74

"minerthom" wrote:
As someone said to me today, if it wasnt for me and the help of others the oldest and most original headgear remaining would be left to rot and fall, please positive replys only please im doing my best and i aint stupid, theres a big metal frame being built around it by sj andrews and then ready to lift, metal chains are being used as straps would flex as the frame moves in the wind and we want to take the weight off the legs that are rotten.

did you know if the headframe was left another 2weeks she would be on the ground in a heap.

well, I haven't seen it. You start by saying it's as rotten as a pear, fit to collapse, but then say it's having a support frame built, which is a different matter.

You don't REALLY want my opinions on why people do some of the things they do... I've seen an Andes crawler crane up-ended before now, and a $10m drilling derrick bent beyond use by getting a bit over-enthusiastic with the draw-works, so it goes.

I was working for Murphy Tunnelling in the 80s and they wrecked a headframe doing pretty much that.... at Charing Cross, it was...

For pure inexcusable daftness I think that attempted shot-firing with those high-pressure compressed-air torpedoes takes some beating..

plus ca change, plus c'est le meme chose

Peter Burgess
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14 years ago

#75

The Mary Rose seems to have survived being lifted by a crane (just!)

What matters more is how it is done, not necessarily what machinery is used to do it. 🙂

stuey
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14 years ago

#76

Here's Roy's post from another thread:-

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I'd be interested in how you would go about calculating the centre of gravity. We could probably get it pretty accurate with a basic moments diagram.

agricola
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14 years ago

#77

"mikebee62" wrote:
I worked for concord tin mines at the tolgus tin site in the early 80s , great to see you doing something to save the head frame, I was told it origionally came from Nangiles mine, Im sure someone on here can confirm if that was correct. Oh I wouldnt expect to find too much Tin down there if you get into the workings Lol. 😉 its a long story !!!

I would agree with this. A friend of mine spent a great deal of time underground sampling all the workings and has said that there was nothing much there..

If it can't be grown it has to be mined.

stuey
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14 years ago

#78

Is there a record of where they looked and what was down there. I've had a look in some of the workings (somewhere) but there are another set (somewhere else) which I'd like to eyeball before taking on the potentially epic abseil.

geoff
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14 years ago

#79

"agricola" wrote:

A friend of mine spent a great deal of time underground sampling all the workings and has said that there was nothing much there..

It didn't take that long, just a Saturday morning ;D

mikebee62
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14 years ago

#80

I hate to say it Stuey , but I wouldnt bother !! , from what I remember nothing special and I could think of a lot of other places much more interesting !!

'Of cause its safe, just dont touch anything !!'