LeeW
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While out looking today at various surface features which inlcuded two sough, if started to think.
I haven't seen any sough/drainage adit/waterlooses etc which weren't either stone lined, brick line or in rock.
I think I vagly remember reading somewhere about wood lined soughs.

Anyone know of any soughs etc which aren't either stone lines, bricklined or in rock?
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16 years ago
Yes, the "shale-gate" soughs along the south side of Eyam edge tended to be lined with wood. Nellie Kirkham saw a section of one of these exposed back in the 1950s and reported that it was supported with timber yokings and brushwood. I've also heard that some of the earlier Wirskworth soughs may have had sections like this, and there are mentions in the Whale sough accounts of timber being used, though whether this was for lining the sough isn't clear.
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Vanoord
16 years ago
I'm not sure I'd describe them as soughs, but I've come across a few wooden-channeled drains/leats in slate mines.

This is at Lake Level in Cwmorthin:

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I've also remembered a report of a wood-lined level similar in character to the Derbyshire example being found in the Greenhow Hill area during spar mining in the 1960s. It's lurking in an early NCMRS journal, I'll check my collection when I get home
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sougher
16 years ago
Vanoord - the picture you've recently put up on the site of what you call a wooden-channeled drain/leat, we in Derbyshire call a "launder". I recall that there was a excellent example of a wooden-channelled drain (launder) like your picture at the end of Magpie Sough, on the 90 fathom level, between the bricked-up wall with the hole in it and the short passage leading to the main shaft. Somewhere in my records I have a black and white photo that I took of it In north Derbyshire house gutters are often referred to as "launders"

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16 years ago
I think that has gone now, or to be more precise is under a lot of rubble. The final section of sough ran in at some point between 1996 and 2006, the 1950s timbering just wasn't built to last.....

Back to the shale gates - a quick visit to Sheffield local studies this lunchtime to look at Jim Rieuwert's 1987 book on soughs proved what I thought but wasn't sure, namely that the timbered sough Nellie Kirkham saw part of in the 1950s was Silence sough near Grindlow.

EDIT - the Greenhow hill example wasn't on a sough as such, but it was a timbered level on Wright's vein, with birch brush and peat over the roof to stop bits falling in. It was reported in NCMRS memoirs for 1966, and a section is apparently preserved, I'm guessing in the museum at Earby.
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LeeW
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16 years ago
It's nice to know I wasn't imagining reading about it. I will have to try and find where I read it, but I've got a fealing it was probably about some old coal mine soughs in Derbys/Notts possibly dated 17/18thC.
But I'll have to check to be certain
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LeeW
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I've found the reference I recalled reading, it's from a paper on Wollaton Sough http://www.aditnow.co.uk/documents/Personal-Album-176/Wollaton-Lenton-Sough-Rest-of-pages.pdf 
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