gNick
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12 years ago
Breaking news, on Look North tonight, an 80 foot shaft has collapsed in Howbank Road Egremont.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-20330497 

Don't look so embarrassed, it's a family trait...
stuey
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12 years ago
The reporting exhibits a lack of flair.

No background, imagination or anything beyond a flat, bare report.

Who hires these people?
rikj
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12 years ago
This is what they did with the one in 2005, seems pretty conclusive;

Following a collapse of the shaft fill in 2005, the treatment involved part filling with clean stone from 32m below ground level, then concreting a section by tremie from 25m bgl up to 12m bgl; diagonal anchor rods were drilled into this concrete plug from four sides before constructing a reinforced concrete cap supported on 8 piles over the shaft.

In 2007 this went on in what looks to be the area of the latest collapse;

A geophysical survey of the rear gardens was carried out in July 2007 to locate this shaft, but was inconclusive. This was followed by shell and auger drilling and probe drilling. The investigation located a possible feature close to the rear corner of the house and monitoring of the semi -detached house was put in place, however the owner Home Housing chose to indefinitely suspend the investigation in late 2008 due to lack of funds available to remediate the feature.

Looking on Oldmaps it’s pretty obvious that there were some serious pits in the area.
Strafer
12 years ago
This news report shows a picture of the collapse, and the drilling rig that has fallen in.
http://www.cumbriacrack.com/2012/11/14/homes-evacuated-after-mine-shaft-collapses-in-egremont/ 
Strafer
Morlock
12 years ago
'Old Maps' has "No 1 Pit (disused)" at the location.
christwigg
12 years ago
"Morlock" wrote:

'Old Maps' has "No 1 Pit (disused)" at the location.



Not according to the Council spokesman.....

“We are dealing with a legacy of mineshafts in this area – some are 100 years old – and we are dealing with the unknown; there are no maps to tell us where they are" ::)
Morlock
12 years ago
Perhaps we could direct the Council spokesman to Old Maps and respectfully suggest some possible linkage. 😉 Assuming I've got the right place?
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Strangely Brown
12 years ago
"Strafer" wrote:

And now a video of the rig sinking. Captured by a residents security camera and speeded up, obviously.

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/homes-evacuated-after-mine-shaft-collapse-in-west-cumbria-1.1014015?referrerPath=home&resourceView=video&index=1#video 



and the moral of this story, always rope up before digging a potential plugged shaft. Note the demise of the innocent garden shed just before the rig sinks 😮
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Buckhill
12 years ago
Not the same shaft Morlock - the one that's just collapsed is closer to North Road.

Not surprising that this happened though, local council are well known for getting it wrong. Seems that the rig was standing on a couple of lightweight tracks - just to get over grass, not for safety. On the video the workman seen running away is - wait for it - secured by a harness - to the rig :stupid: .
The second man, running out of his house on hearing a scream, finds him hanging on the fence with his tether pulling him after the rig and unclips him before pulling him out of the hole. And according to crack I heard he was working there alone while his two marras were off site.
Morlock
12 years ago
"Buckhill" wrote:

Not the same shaft Morlock - the one that's just collapsed is closer to North Road.



Was the No 1 Pit iron ore?
fjällvandring
12 years ago
A lot of old shafts around here probably, wonder how many others to be discovered 😛
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Buckhill
12 years ago
Yes, all iron ore in the town (one copper adit to east). The collapsed shaft was Gillfoot No2, 100 yds east of the No1. There were six in all for this mine (only abandoned in 1924 by the way) and at least 20 others within a mile radius. A lot are interconnected and where not there is suspected water flow along fault planes (the orebodies are veins and associated replacement flats on the fault lines). The statement given by the local council leader that there are no plans is untrue - they just need to look in the right place but a bit of research before spending our money is an alien concept to them.

As I said before they have a knack for doing it wrong - when they were clearing the Haig Pit site in the '80s they managed to "discover" a shaft (King Pit) which wasn't even lost by parking a JCB in it.
Morlock
12 years ago
Thanks for the update, found an interesting read on the area here.

http://79.170.44.147/rickbaines.com/steetley/cms.php?id_cms=15 

Suppose BGS would have extensive shaft records for the area?

Gavin
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12 years ago
rikj
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12 years ago
"Morlock" wrote:



Suppose BGS would have extensive shaft records for the area?



Yes, have a look at their online borehole viewer.

http://www.bgs.ac.uk/data/boreholescans/home.html 

Morlock
12 years ago
Thanks Rikj, handy research tool. BGS appear to have added a few new features since my last visit.
Notice No 2 borehole chart is free but some adjacent holes are on the restricted list.

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