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Down and beyond
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5 years ago

Hello everybody I haven’t posted on this site before I have got some nice photos from all of my mine explores if any body is bored and wants me to post them on herein the correct place I am more than happy to

Anyway the carbide lamp I bought /won a job lot and this lamp was inside it I am really unsure how it works as it does not have a water dropper component, i am hoping some one on here has the time to answer my questions I will try attach a few photos if I can figure out how if not might need some help !

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royfellows
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5 years ago

I would put the pics in your personal album, then you can paste the link into any posting you make and photo will appear.

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We all interested in what you have.

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Tamarmole
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5 years ago

Never owned one myself but.... If it is a Fisma it works on a pressurised system. The Fisma was always reckoned to be the best carbide generator around as it wouldn't cut out when held in odd positions.

Mr.C
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5 years ago

I've still got my trusty Fisma. I'll have a look once you've posted the photos.

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Coggy
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5 years ago

I may be the last mine/cave explorer to use a carbide lamp. Exploring Bincliffe mines on the Manifold in 2011

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Morlock
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5 years ago

My last trip on carbide was November 2010. Premier Trent headlamp with remote generator, (300g I think).

simonrl
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5 years ago

Hi Down and below

I've fixed the upload problem for you now, the system hadn't created a folder when your account was created. A bug, nothing you did wrong.

And I've moved your photo to your own personal album.

You're welcome to use your personal album for any photos you need to upload.

However if you've got photos of specific mines you want to upload please can you upload those to the mine albums, as it then correctly catalogues them by mine name and is easier for people to find. If you need any pointers on how to find mines please post a thread :flowers:

Hope that helps.

SL

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simonrl
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5 years ago

And here's the lamp!

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Morlock
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5 years ago

An image of the hand held part from its other end would be helpful.:)

Down and beyond
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5 years ago

#10

Hello everybody sorry about all the mess up their appears to have been a small problem on my account that Simon fixed for me many thanks here is a Photo I hope
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inbye
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5 years ago

#11

"Morlock" wrote:
An image of the hand held part from its other end would be helpful.:)

There's more images in the album....

Trying to imagine how there's a gas tight seal, can only think it depends on the initial water level being accurate?

Regards, John...

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Morlock
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5 years ago

#12

Looks that way, reminds me a little of the Kipps H2S generator where the outlet provides the gas flow and liquid level regulation.

Most drip feed lamps can be operated with the water valve too far open resulting in the water inflow being regulated by the internal gas pressure via the restriction of the jet.
Think of a bad start up where the water flow is too high and its forced out of the filler hole by gas pressure and temporarily stopping the water flow.

Down and beyond
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5 years ago

#13

It sounds very complicated to use correctly compared to my prem lamp , really am stuck on how to work it, I guess the largest main chamber you fill with water then the carbide goes inside the inner chamber as this does not completely seal water will seep into it causing the reaction ?

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Mr.C
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5 years ago

#14

"Down and beyond" wrote:
It sounds very complicated to use correctly compared to my prem lamp , really am stuck on how to work it, I guess the largest main chamber you fill with water then the carbide goes inside the inner chamber as this does not completely seal water will seep into it causing the reaction ?

Lord, that's weird & nothing like any lamp I've seen, my Fisma included. Sorry.

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Morlock
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5 years ago

#15

Perhaps there is some perishable part missing, sponge, wick, rubber ball float etc.

Down and beyond
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5 years ago

#16

Ahh very true their could well be well not to worry thankyou very much all of you for your help , I have uploaded some photos from my trip to maenoffern slate mine to the album I hope I have done this correctly any problems I am sure some one will tell me

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inbye
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5 years ago

#17

Try some gentle cleaning on the inside of the water chamber, see if there's any sign of a "fill to" water level line.
Think pot noodle, lol....

Regards, John...

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Down and beyond
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5 years ago

#18

Hello I have a message here from the previous owner of the lamp this may be of some use as I am not that experienced with these lamps

hi WELLthis is difficult i have been collecting things like this for many yearsas one does . Any way all these carbide lamps are over100years the one you had is verry smple its all there has no seperate water container just relies on carbide in container if you notice it does not quite shut put water inmain body and lower in it will then just seep in ??with luck .verry dangerous so be carefull

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Down and beyond
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5 years ago

#19

So my theory is you lower this chamber I have named carbide on the photo into the water without it being fully closed to allow it to seep in Slowly. And pray :lol::lol:

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Peter Burgess
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5 years ago

#20

How tightly do the various parts fit together?

I think it might be a self-regulating system (which Premiers are up to a point), where the pressure of the generated gas keeps the water "at bay" until the pressure drops a little, allowing a bit more water in, to generate more gas, and "push back" the water so it won't flood the inner chamber. If you draw a section through the assembled lamp, it may provide a clue. How well the different bits fit together might confirm this idea, or kill it.

So, as I have sketched it, water in the outermost part, makes its way between the different concentric cylinders into the innermost chamber where the carbide is. The gas escapes up the "chimney" to the burning nozzle.