Foster Smith uploaded if any help.

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Cheers Roy! 😉

If only ... but let's stop them going up everywhere!;D

The only published work I can find is NMRS BM 50, an article by Peter Claughton about the mining companies, nothing of any use to you there, and of course there is George Halls book which you will have seen, "Metal Mines of South Wales".

I am wracking my brains for any geological stuff which is what you really want, if you cant get an abandonment plan or modern survey then a map showing the location and strike of the lodes would be useful. If they cross the land earmarked for the wind farm then its Sayonara wind farm

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BGS Geological and borehole info is not much use for anti wind farm data.

To go slightly off topic (what me, never!).

The relaxation of the planning laws regarding "small scale" windfarms seems to be having an unwanted effect. We are now getting windfarms by stealth. First one "small" turbine goes up. Then another one is added, then another and so on. There is one farm near me that now has two up with a third in the pipe line. There are another three already up in the same locality with at least one more planned!

DC21 Ltd of Huddersfield

I just wondered as I had a pain in the arse client that was a wind farm developer based in cheshire

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Are not the foundations of wind turbines drilled to depth in known mining area`s before the mass of concrete is poured?

The area from Onllwyn to Crynant was well mined,with the Rhondda No.2 seam being the upper most seam extensively worked,now there are large turbines there.

Is this more "not in my back yard"ism.

All I ever see is people objecting to windfarms. How about they install a dirty great oil fired station instead?

many years ago there was a plan to build what would have been at the time europe's biggest onshore windfarm in rookhope

The turbine towers are piled very deep, then sat on a huge concrete plinths. I wouldn't want to vouch for the welfare of any mine workings close by.

Plus there was also the added problem of access to the site becoming restricted, so any workings that were close to become a bit 'out of bounds'

NIMBYism is a cheap an easy card to play. These things are by and large great money makers for the developers, lots and lots of subsidy, compensation if there's too much supply in the grid and they have to turn them off, get a premium for what ever power they do generate, only have about 25% efficiency, contain over half of their expected potential in embodied energy and emissions before they even get close to looking 'green'

and it is the rest of us that pay for a handful of developers to get stinking rich in sneaky taxes our bills

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Nimbyism/environmentalism/whathaveyou are a useful balance to development surely?

Brown skies and dead rivers are what we would have if industry was to go unchecked.

Anyway, as someone who lives on the periphery of a massively industrialised area, I quite like having somewhere to go what is not!

Digit on here sent me a marvellous metaphor about this, I do hope he doesn't mind me sharing it.

"Yes, they are bit like dandelions, let your attention wander for a bit and you get a field full of them."

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;D:thumbsup:;D

I agree with all of the above but my point was missed...

AngB is using the mine as an excuse for them not to build it, not out of interest for mining or industrial archaeology. But only to serve her own purpose of not wanting to see them from her house....

Does AngB campaign about other wind farms in other areas of mining activity etc? I highly doubt it. The only reason an interest has been shown is because it is in her back yard.

We need more power, and it has to be built somewhere. With all of these "NIMBYS", it drives the costs of the projects up and it generally still happens either way.

So if you are against wind turbines on that site, what should we install on that site, coal? Oil? Nuclear? I bet you are against all of those too 😉

A local person is concerned with a local issue. That does not seem unreasonable in itself.

If you don't want to share your knowledge of the area with her then you needn't.

If this proposed windfarm in particular is of crucial importance to the national energy policy (or lack thereof!) then her objections will likely be overridden anyway.

No harm done!

I think that this thread is in danger of degenerating into a point scoring match between the pros and antis.

Anyway, John E, my posting about geology was along the lines of probability of the mine being stoped to surface or just below and plotting the strike of loads would possibly indicate location of workings.

Mr GTi, yes I agree that Angie is probably using the mine as an excuse, in fact I would say rather obvious. But that does not change the fact that the Welsh are on the whole fed up with seeing wind farms springing up in all directions.
Gas, oil fired, nuclear, whatever, one thing you can say is that they will produce more power than a whole multitude of wind farms put together.

An idea becomes fashionable, big money gets in on the act, and then there's no way you will stop the railroad.

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As an engineer, wind farms are a joke and are far from being a solution to our power needs. Plus, why in wales. We have a power station in pembs that can supply all our power. Stick em in wales where no one can complain seems to be the motto. How many wind farms are in the Cotswolds? Too many people there to complain! And, for each turbine set that goes in you have a lpg or diesel genset installed to make up for when the winds not blowing.
Do the math, they are friggin useless eyesores!
Solar is one better, nuclear is tops, but we are running low. Coal wont last forever, the seas power is fairly limited and gas is not going to last forever.
Gassification is the future. Renewable and powerful. Google it.
As for the mine, we have the old workings extending for untold fathoms in to the hill and the partially infilled newer shaft that likely has significant stoping and levels.

Carmarthen county council needs to adopt this site.

Could you clarify Gasification?

The only 2 i can think of are Wood and Coal.

http://anagenesiscorporation.com/ 
This is the future!

http://anagenesiscorporation.com/ 
This is the future!

Had a quick look, looks interesting.

Cant help but comment though on the much repeated photograph of the stranded polar bear on the ice who unlike every other polar bear on the face of the planet never learned to swim.
When it comes to selling anything fact and logic are first casualties.

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Its the wood from renewable sources that will leave it down,

Thinking of the import of wood chip for Drax from the Southern states of the US.