I know nothing about subject this but this Anagenesis Trefolia tree, presumably genetically engineered?.
If its so good at propagating itself what happens if it gets out of hand. I mean it looks like Japanese Knotweed on steroids.

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The size of the tips I mentioned upthread suggests a lot of development - but given their contents perhaps not a lot of stoping! There may be abandonment plans in the County Archive. However, having done odds and ends of consultancy on planned wind projects, companies are fairly diligent in avoiding any potential old workings. The last bloody thing they need is subsidence affecting a turbine. If they have not made the relevant investigations into potential mine workings, the next question is "why?"

In determining a planning application of this sort, the local authority have to weight up the cumulative impacts of the proposed turbines and consider if the benefits outweight the harm. If there are mining remains in the area then they should have been looked at as part of the environmental impact assessment that should accompany the application, also the geology should have been investigated though this doesn't always get done properly - at Carsington Pastures, the applicants were warned about the nature of the ground, ignored that warning and didn't drill, and ended up having to use vastly more concrete for the bases than they expected to.

The application documents should be online, if the OP can post a link to them on the local authority's website I'll take a look and see what has/hasn't been done. Also, I'd suggest checking with the local planning office about how critical meeting the deadline for comments is, from my experience they aren't usually too strict about these and will accept late comments. The key factor is generally when the planning officer writes their report for the planning committee. If an application is likely to be contentious then they quite often take quite a while to get to committee.

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Thanks for reply - urgency due to planning application for 2 x 54 wind turbines just up the hill from the mine entrance - put in by Cwm Farm and Parcybedw Farm. I live in a cottage (marked on OS map - Blaen Einon). We found out about the application on Sunday and only have until next Thursday 26th Feb to put our objections in. We are trying to find evidence that would enable us to use the following objection:

GDC15 - CONTAMINATED LAND AND PREVIOUSLY DEVELOPED LAND: Planning Policy Wales 2002 para. 2.7.1 – 2.7.2
Planning Policy Wales 2002 para. 13.5.1

To ensure that new development is not permitted without a full understanding of the risks involved, including those associated with the previous land use, mine and landfill gas emissions, subsidence, rock falls or landslips.

Hence the urgency and my request.

I have come back to this as its just occurred to me to ask this.

How come?

With you living in the immediate vicinity surely you should have been informed ages ago.

I correct procedures have not been followed then surely this in itself is enough for complaint.

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A quick check of one of the application numbers indicates it was submitted on 17/10/2014!

Thanks John
Thinking about this some more, should not Angie have been informed in writing when the papers were submitted?

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Thanks John
Thinking about this some more, should not Angie have been informed in writing when the papers were submitted?

As someone affected I would have thought so.

The problem is the regulations appear to be skewed in favour of the developers. I suspect planning departments only have to consult with a limited number of locals whilst following Government guidelines?
I'm fairly sure if the views of people who travel through the now windmill scarred areas of Wales were canvassed there would not be any.:curse:

Rant over!

Thinking about this some more, should not Angie have been informed in writing when the papers were submitted?

I think each council is different on this. Where we are whether you get a letter or not depends on which party your ward councillor is in. Certainly worth checking out.

There should have been site notices at the least; though not unheard of for the applicants to take these down. :angel:

In Yorks/Lancs there are plenty of old shallow coal workings with turbines on now, but possibly dealing with these is easier.

There's a fair amount of Government policy info about but it would take a bit of wading through.

Like has been mentioned,if the application was back in October,there would have been site notices but also planning application in the local press,and if anything like this neck of the woods,the community council would have had a meeting which would have been plastered everywhere for everyone to see the info.

Last year around here,there were notices in a 15mile radius because one farmers was erecting One Turbine.

The application for 2 x 54 wind turbines on 2 farms,

First look seems like 108 wind turbines,that covers a Very large area,

Second look seems like 2 wind turbines possibly 54m high,one on each farm.

Off topic - please stanrt a new one on Wind Turbines. It is getting boring :zzz:

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Foster-Smith states the veins strike north west and north- northwest, i.e. northwestwards under Penygraig Uchaf and southeastwards beneath Cwm and beneath Parcybedw. Nonferrous mineral veins in this region tend to be almost vertical so even if worked to, or near to surface, only a narrow zone might be close to the workings. The extent of the workings along the strike of the veins will be limited - only large mines worked much more than half a kilometre or so along veins; Parcybedw is likely to be beyond the furthest limits of the workings.

Not knowing the difference between Trelech and Llangunnor, I up-loaded two pages from The British Caver Vol 87 pp 30-31 on Llangunnor Mines in the mining section under Llangunnor.

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Not knowing the difference between Trelech and Llangunnor, I up-loaded two pages from The British Caver Vol 87 pp 30-31 on Llangunnor Mines in the mining section under Llangunnor.

Thank you, a lot of this older stuff needs digitalising and uploading.

I can only guess the date by the typing, do you have date for this please. Its not on the material unless I missed something.

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Christmas 1982

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-31530795 

Dylan Thomas and a ruined view!

Strange that there is one rule for a dead poet and an empty house while the rest of us have to suffer these wind farms even though we do not want them.