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robertjohnson123
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7 years ago

Evening,

I am trying to identify possible adits or shafts for an old colliery, after identification of the location on a map I visited, but could find no trace on the ground

Name: Robinsclough Colliery, Buxton

I have attached an aerial photo, I think where the red arrow is an air shaft?

I hope you can held identify anything on the image using your experience

Thank you

Evening,

I am trying to identify possible adits or shafts for an old colliery, after identification of the location on a map I visited, but could find no trace on the ground

I have attached an aerial photo, I think where the red arrow is an air shaft?

I hope you can held identify anything on the image using your experience

Thank you

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John_Smith
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7 years ago

Certainly looks like something.

I would go by the old maps.
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=6&lat=54.8024&lon=-3.1321&layers=1&right=BingHyb

Morlock
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7 years ago

Can you supply a grid ref or lat-long position?

AR
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7 years ago

A grid ref would be useful - have you looked at John Barnatt's work on the western moors collieries?

Follow the horses, Johnny my laddie, follow the horses canny lad-oh!

ant89
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7 years ago

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=17&lat=53.2087&lon=-2.0022&layers=6&right=BingHyb

Nothing shows up on the map.

Morlock
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7 years ago

Looks like a square air shaft on 1870s mapping.

robertjohnson123
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7 years ago

Evening,

Thanks so much for replying
Thanks Morlock, ant89,AR, John_Smith

Yes Grid reference is SJ 99989 67937
Robinsclough Colliery

Apologies for not supplying

Yes 1875 map seems to show that red arrow in my pic as an air shaft:

http://maps.cheshire.gov.uk/tithemaps/PrintLandscape.aspx?e=400090.64&n=367868.2&scale=1.27&left=OS1st&right=&rtab=R1&srch=

Any Ideas where entrance to mine would be? Or how to find out

yes will try that book AR much appreciated

Morlock
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7 years ago

There is another colliery on the mapping, Greenhill Colliery, about 340 metres southwest on a bearing of around 200 degrees T.

About here.

https://zoom.earth/#53.205792,-2.00332,19z,map

trebor
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7 years ago

How long since Colliery closed ?
Not much evidence of tracks to either colliery or buildings for either colliery.

AR
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7 years ago

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Now I've had time to think, I don't think John's published work covers this area - the one I'm thinking of is in Mining History vol 19 no. 2 "Coal Mining near Buxton: Thatch Marsh, Orchard Common and Goyt’s Moss". He did look at this area and wrote it up in the PDMHS newsletter, I'll try and find the relevant one and see what he wrote there, or just ask him when I next see him!

Edit - found the reference, it was in Observations and Discoveries part 25, April 2008. I'll dig my copy out and see what it says.

Follow the horses, Johnny my laddie, follow the horses canny lad-oh!

Morlock
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7 years ago

#11

"trebor" wrote:
How long since Colliery closed ?
Not much evidence of tracks to either colliery or buildings for either colliery.

Mapping is around 1870 so probably a fair while before then.

staffordshirechina
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7 years ago

#12

It is listed in the index of "The Coal Mines of Buxton" by Roberts and Leach 1985. With a vague location.

christwigg
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7 years ago

#13

Lidar can be extremely useful, unfortunately your location is just outside where data is available for.

https://houseprices.io/lab/lidar/map?ref=SK00006800

Worth remembering for other sites though.

Edd
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7 years ago

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"AR" wrote:
Now I've had time to think, I don't think John's published work covers this area - the one I'm thinking of is in Mining History vol 19 no. 2 "Coal Mining near Buxton: Thatch Marsh, Orchard Common and Goyt’s Moss". He did look at this area and wrote it up in the PDMHS newsletter, I'll try and find the relevant one and see what he wrote there, or just ask him when I next see him!

Edit - found the reference, it was in Observations and Discoveries part 25, April 2008. I'll dig my copy out and see what it says.

Goyts Moss is further up the hill towards Buxton near the Square chimney. I have the surveys at home some where :thumbsup:

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AR
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7 years ago

#15

Having looked at what JB wrote about Robin's Clough, he mentions two levels, one of which is still intact but walled up, but also this:
"At the top of the steep gutter slope and a short distance west of the level entrance, the 1871 map shows an ‘Air Shaft’ (SJ 9998 6794). Today there is a steep-sided symmetrical hollow, less than a metre deep, at the site. There is no clear sign of a spoil heap and perhaps the shaft was risen from below and the spoil taken out of the level. Further north-west, there is a second possible air shaft (SJ 9988 6803), perhaps not yet sunk in c. 1870. Here there is another shallow hollow, with a low spoil heap on the downslope side; however, the possibility that this is a trial quarry pit should also be considered."

Follow the horses, Johnny my laddie, follow the horses canny lad-oh!

robertjohnson123
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7 years ago

#16

That's everyone.

Thanks AR, do you know where I can get a copy of the publication by john Barnett you QUOTED?

robnorthwales
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7 years ago

#17

"christwigg" wrote:
Lidar can be extremely useful, unfortunately your location is just outside where data is available for.

https://houseprices.io/lab/lidar/map?ref=SK00006800

Worth remembering for other sites though.

Ooh, another nice shiny mapping site for me to browse !

Like !

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trebor
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7 years ago

#18

The 'Geo Hack' is very useful too.

AR
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7 years ago

#19

"robertjohnson123" wrote:
That's everyone.

Thanks AR, do you know where I can get a copy of the publication by john Barnett you QUOTED?

It's from an old PDMHS newsletter so not something you can generally buy as it's sent to society members and not put on sale, but PM me your email address and I can send you the full text of this particular bit. Alternatively, the local studies library at Matlock Bath has a near-complete set of them - it was in the April 2008 newsletter. They are also available in electronic form in the members area of our website.

I think John does have plans to do a more in-depth article for Mining History on some of the collieries of the western moors but it's just one of several works in progress!

Follow the horses, Johnny my laddie, follow the horses canny lad-oh!

Roger L
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7 years ago

#20

On the ground I would use divining with a rod and stone which I have found to be useful.

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