legendrider
9 years ago
Jim MacPherson
9 years ago
Boulby was one of the objectors to the Whitby proposal on the grounds it would put up wage costs/make their employees leave. Strange they didn't mention the geological problems at Boulby at all!
sumpjumper
9 years ago
Is this purely a geological issue
Does it have any implication for York Potash which now has its permission issued I believe.
ChrisJC
9 years ago
Geological Issue normally means 'too many highly paid staff - need to get rid of some....'

Chris.
exspelio
9 years ago
Just another example of management overcoming production, when will they realise- ??-AAARRGHH
Always remember, nature is in charge, get it wrong and it is you who suffers!.
BertyBasset
9 years ago
Several issues here, some of which I understand.
So I gather polyhalite is a combined sulphate of potassium and calcium, not currently being used a widespread fertiliser. Polyhalite beds are about 100m below the KCl beds currently being mined by Cleveland at Boulby. Sirius will be going exclusively after polyhalite to the south, eastwards from Whitby. Boulby is an existing mine, loads of jobs going. Sirius as far as I can see is currently speculative. The Northern Powerhouse minister from Stockton appears to have responded to job cuts with a 'meh'. Ditto for steel job cuts.
On the bright side Cleveland's despair at there being not enough skilled mining personel should Sirius enter the fray has been solved by making staff redundant - for Sirius to employ.
somersetminer
9 years ago
"BertyBasset" wrote:


On the bright side Cleveland's despair at there being not enough skilled mining personel should Sirius enter the fray has been solved by making staff redundant - for Sirius to employ.



would you really want to hang your hopes on that if you were in the same boat at the guys at Boulby! its very like the situation down here with South Crofty at the moment (except funding requirements are 5x greater)
legendrider
9 years ago
seems odd that a year ago they built a new headgear, now claiming they're running out of potash :confused:

Did they reach Germany already???

MARK
festina lente[i]
somersetminer
9 years ago
Having read the BBC article, to me it sounds more like (the justification for) cost cutting.
You cant say you're going to have massive layoffs, and then talk about increasing output from 200,000 to 1M tonnes in the same breath.
The reserves are quoted as running up to 2018, mining firms
work on a 3 year reserve plan as standard. Plus as mentioned theres the recent expenditure on the new headgear.
Ty Gwyn
9 years ago
The 4 million odd grant from the Government helped pay for the headgear.
somersetminer
9 years ago
"Ty Gwyn" wrote:

The 4 million odd grant from the Government helped pay for the headgear.



Ty, you know enough (but possibly not cynical enough!) to know if there was any way they could have channelled that money into 'other things', they would have! The evidence is they needed it for production so the case was made for the grant
Ty Gwyn
9 years ago
Obtained a grant ,to help pay for the headgear,

Is`nt that what i said?

Anyway,don`t worry about that,they are 190 million in debt apparently.
somersetminer
9 years ago
fair enough, x'd wires
AdM Michael
9 years ago
"legendrider" wrote:

seems odd that a year ago they built a new headgear, now claiming they're running out of potash :confused:

Did they reach Germany already???

MARK



Just checked our mines in Germany and there are no reports about any link to the UK. Maybe they've taken a wrong turn somewhere.
BertyBasset
9 years ago
"somersetminer" wrote:

"BertyBasset" wrote:


On the bright side Cleveland's despair at there being not enough skilled mining personel should Sirius enter the fray has been solved by making staff redundant - for Sirius to employ.



would you really want to hang your hopes on that if you were in the same boat at the guys at Boulby! its very like the situation down here with South Crofty at the moment (except funding requirements are 5x greater)



Yes, very sad for the workers. I was just being ironic with regard to the relatively local Northern Powerhouse minister. - Whatever he does, apart from protecting Northern industrial jobs that is. - Cleveland Steelworkers as well. or probably not.
derrickhand
9 years ago
"Northern Powerhouse" is just a euphemism for the ongoing regionalisation dictated by the EU, but comprehensively rejected in a referendum in 2004 (so much so that the remaining 3 scheduled referenda were hurriedly cancelled before they could return the same result)

It's like the EU Constitution being rejected by referenda in France and Netherlands, then embodied in the Lisbon Treaty anyway so that it could not be voted down again somewhere else - the same Lisbon Treaty which was pretty much the last thing the Gordon Brown administration did, actively facilitated by David Cameron (who COULD have forced a General Election, or simply raised the matter in the Commons, but chose to collaborate with Labour in smuggling this very important issue through with virtually no debate at all)

Also the same Lisbon Treaty which prevented Cameron's promised 2010 Referendum taking place, and which effectively nullifies any meaningful outcome if the supposed 2016/17 one.


plus ca change, plus c'est le meme chose
derrickhand
9 years ago
Talking of S Crofty, what IS going on there, if anything?
plus ca change, plus c'est le meme chose
BertyBasset
9 years ago
Boulby wise, is it that the existing potash mine has made extracting polyhalite difficult due to existing workings?

Assume it must be the case if the Whitby project is going ahead.

Robin

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