ICLOK
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Heres a question about something that gets raised fairly regularly in other posts... Shaft Capping.

Coming from Derbyshire I've seen all sorts of shaft caps from lumps of concrete to stone beehives to simply pouring in building waste etc but I've never really had it explained to me the plugging process, filling and capping of coal shafts, re-collaring and capping (for bats etc)... Can any of you guys please enlighten us of the modern ways of dealing with shafts but also if possible tell us what the acceptable norms used to be as well.

I think this is one of those subjects we all know a little about but it would be good to get an overview.

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15 years ago
Cheers, Yep, I have this, I'm interested in the really big stuff like plugging huge Tin shafts and filling and capping coal mines... now and in the past.
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derrickman
15 years ago
broadly speaking, the process of capping larger shafts consists of excavating the debris and overburden in the collar area down to some kind of foundation, sufficient to provide a seat.

a support or platform ( once called a 'sollar' ) is then placed in the shaft and concrete, reinforcement etc placed on top to form a structural slab.

sometimes the slab may be precast and placed in sections - shafts on civil engineering projects are usually finished off in this way.

the level of the top depends on the required finish, landscaping etc.
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Graigfawr
15 years ago
Can't at the moment put my hand on the NCB specification for shaft filling and capping but, from memory:

1. Build masonry stoppings a short way down every level that intersects the shaft. This is to stop fill from flowing down the levels.

2. Clear all impediementia from shaft - cage guides, cables, pipes, etc. This is ensure the infill material does not get 'hung-up anywhere and voids left.

3. Pour concrete down to fill the sump, also the levels that intersect the shaft at the deepest landing, and also for a few metres above.

3. Pour approved fill (formerly rubble, more usually graded shale later on, seem to be good quality aggreagte most recently) until a depth a few metres below the next landing is reached.

4. Alternate (2) and (3) until rock-head is reached.

5. Ideally, excavate the shaft collar away and for many metres around all the way to rock-head, and cast a large diamater (actually usually square), thick reinforced concrete pad (the cap), then back fill to final surface level. If rock-head is too deep for this approach, the cap is cast at whatever depth is selected, but of a sufficently large diameter that were the shaft fill to subside and a void to be formed, and the shaft walls fail between the underside of the cap and rock-head, and a 45 degree subsidence cone form, the cap would still safely protect the surface from subsidence.


This sort of approach is, needless to say, expensive!
royfellows
15 years ago
I have to come in on this.
At Frongoch, I capped the adit shaft myself working with a friend at a cost of about £250.

Working on a rope I cleared away the top soil and loose stuff to get down to bedrock. I then shuttered it all up and concreted to 2 levels, this was decided because of the requirement for a bat entry and the natural lie of the rock.
After this, I improvised and adapted.
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ICLOK
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Thanks for the responses so far :thumbup:

How substantial are the stoppings to the shafts?, is there a life span to be expected of them as everything fills with water? and are we actually saying really the cap above rock level is the permananent closure of the shaft, in other words is it expected for the fill in the shaft to subside?

As an aside when they abandon major coal workingswhat precautions are taken against ongoing subsidence?

So in Cornwall and metal mining areas where shafts are irregular and intersect workings on the lodes what is done there where it is not possible to fill? Just the last stage I take it?


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15 years ago
This is what Kerrier were up to in the 90's

These are the "plugs" that are marked with "bollards".

Shame that a lot of good workings were sealed very permanently by this overkill.

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If you look at the photos I uploaded of Prosper United Mines you will see detail of the shaft plug installed in 'our' shaft. Capping is now seen as risky as water can creep around the sides and cause failure of the cap. A plug will just jam in even further if it moves.
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Cheers for that... I get the plugging bit now.
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15 years ago
Thats where I saw them wheal... thanks for reminding me..


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Morlock
15 years ago
"ICLOK" wrote:

in other words is it expected for the fill in the shaft to subside?



Some observations at two filled shafts at a local washery.

For at least twenty years the long filled shafts of an old colliery were buried under mounds of washery waste.
When the washery shut the site was levelled and the brickwork of the two square shafts was exposed at ground level, within a year the infill had subsided 18 inches.
A reinforced slab which appeared to be at least twice the shaft area was then cast at ground level.
For scale the plug at the centre is 12 inches square.

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Edit For clarity: The bedrock in the area is just about at ground level.
Graigfawr
15 years ago
"ICLOK" wrote:

Thanks for the responses so far :thumbup:

How substantial are the stoppings to the shafts?, is there a life span to be expected of them as everything fills with water? and are we actually saying really the cap above rock level is the permananent closure of the shaft, in other words is it expected for the fill in the shaft to subside?

As an aside when they abandon major coal workingswhat precautions are taken against ongoing subsidence?

So in Cornwall and metal mining areas where shafts are irregular and intersect workings on the lodes what is done there where it is not possible to fill? Just the last stage I take it?



Stoppings to levels off shafts are substantial masonry walls, deeply keyed into adjacent strata (metres deep), able to withstand the weight of perhaps 10 metres of wet concrete which is the sort of vertical extent of the shaft plug both above and below the landing.

Their life span is, i believe, anticipated to be 'permanant' - presumably translates as designed to last a few centuries.

Yes, there will always be subsidence between the top of the shaft fill and the underside of the cap. hence the massive thickness and considerable diameter of the cap, to prevent subsidence of the cap and any above-cap groundworks into this void. A major cause of shaft fill subsidence is poor quality fill. I remember when a local path crossing a relatively small (about 12 ft x 8 ft) realtively shallow (about 400 ft) colliery shaft collapsed with the 1900s timber cap, revealing a void of about 40 ft - i.e. 10% subsidence due to infillinmg with unsorted colliery waste and no stoppings to the two landings. This 4o ft was infilled with more colliery waste and in a year sank by by a further 8 to 10 ft, indicating both compaction of this fill plus, very likely, further flow of infill into the levels.

By "precautions against ongoing subsidence" I presume you mean the general, widespread settling of the land surface following longwall extraction? Answer - none; it tends to be assumed that in a decade or so wide-area settling will have largely ceased. Actually, this settling is limited by void migration rates. basiclally, when the seam roof collapses, the broken rock stacks unevenly, occupying slightly more volume than the solid rock, Then the next layer falls, again occupying slightly more volume than the solid rock. As the void in the worked out seam migrates upwards through layer after layer of roof collapsing, this increase in volume leaves less and less void until the void ceses to migrate upwards. Void migration occurs for up to around 15 times extracted seam thickness. Where multiple overlying seams have been worked it gets more complicated but there are limits to how far the void can migrate. However, where a numbe rof seams have been extensively worked, the entire ground surface subsides, irrespective of these limiots to void migration. Thus the central part of the Glamorgan coalfield has been calculated to have subsided up to 6 metres over the last 100 years or so - a figure that agrees reasonably closely with the total thickness of coal extracted from the various underlying seams.

Irregular shafts, if still worked immediately prior to capping (and hence accessible to build stoppings and strip out shaft impedimentia) could be filled and capped as per NCB proceedures quoted earlier on this thread. However, older abandoned shafts (whether irregular or regular, and irrespective of mineral worked) are not accessible for these detailed treatments so the options are more basic - either fill (hoping no large voids remain and that not too much fill flows into levels) and cap, or just cap.
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15 years ago
Excellent... and many thanks... I knew a little re stoppings but not that they were so substantial 😮

I watched old shaft filling operations recently at Yate and wondered if it was just a case of keep filling until full which it obviously is...

So what about subsidence in vertical lode mines such as in Cornwall, I've seen various pictures of collapsed stopes etc to surface, whats about if that was to happen, how would that be dealt with?

Given the nature of the amount of mining in areas such as Camborne can we oneday expect some calamatous collapses of ground?




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15 years ago
A lot of the holes that open up are shafts sollared over and backfilled which then give way.

Around here, I gather a lot of the Clwyd caps were done in the 80's by operation minecap. If you poke around Gwennap Consols, you'll see that the big ones have cones over whilst the smaller ones are filled. I gather that this was done by having a good scrape back of the loose stuff, throwing a basket in and then some rocks to block it, before concrete (a lot) and then backfill. A serious amount of these shafts were done in this manner and no detail was recorded. Wheal Busy and Wheal Unity Wood are excellent examples of this.

The following caps, outlined in the above diagram did have archaeological assessments done and these are available from the local libraries. This is tragic reading as a lot of very interesting features were obliterated. There was a push to keep access, but unlike Roy F's link, down here, access is not allowed and is a point of contention. A few batcastles were put in, but a whole load of interesting access points disappeared forever. Wheal Buller assessment is particularly tragic.

Those plugs are utterly bombproof.

I also haven't seen very much evidence for "vent pipes". If you poke around places like Tresavean and parts of St Day, there are masonry "turrets" with vent holes. The capping projects which occured over Buller, Basset, Binner Consols, Dolcoath, etc, etc, etc with the characteristic "markers" so not have vent holes. The holes in the sides of them are merely places where you put a bar through to pick it up with a JCB and sling.

Having said, our council knows best and you can imagine how dangerous it would be without their know-best.

I gather United Downs was a scary dangerous place that people were warned from visiting. Now all the shafts are made safe, dogs can be let off the leads for a run around.....

..... having poked around some of the holes and looked up, there are more shafts than there are on the surface and at some point the crappy old timbers will fail.... of course it will be someone's fault.

I think the old people had it right with "Old mining ground is dangerous".
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15 years ago
I've a copy of the NCB closure plan for Park House Colliery in N. Staffs from the late 60's. I scan & post a copy of the shaft filling/capping spec in the next day of so.
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owd git
15 years ago
Was part of the operation to cap 50+ shafts and 1 adit at Denby /Kirk o/cast Nr Ripley Derbys'
even small (3M. dia' shafts) took 2 days steel fxing and 2waggons (12M. sq.) of the specified concrete.
the adit required 2 'walls' 500mm.filled blockwork,a 3M. gap filled with 'spec' concrete.6loads!
There's a 'kin great industrial unit on it now! just past the turn to the Kestrel on Derby Rd.
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15 years ago
Talking of things on shafts, I was working off old plans and 6" maps putting pins on google earth of shaft locations to go and have a look at.

There are a lot of houses in the wrong places. It's almost like they attract building right on them.

There is a good one near St Day where the shaft is shown on the 6" map as being almost as big as the bungalow which sits right on it. I'm sure it was referred to as being huge in some old literature.

Nuts.....and they wonder why stuff goes down holes periodically....
Tezarchaeon
15 years ago
The land was probably sold off cheap as chips and the shafts just boarded over and sneakily hidden under a pile of dirt before the land was sold.

They didnt dig massively deep foundations nor did they drill the ground to check for workings back when they built most of those houses, if a shaft is buried under 6 ft of flattened spoil heap then the potential buyers of the land would have been none the wiser back then!

If it looked too cheap to be true then it more than likely WAS!
derrickman
15 years ago
there is a big difference between capping or backfilling old coal mining shafts, and capping or backfilling old "miscellaneous" workings

this is, of course, that coal workings were mostly backfilled or made safe by a major national organisation with resources to suit and a reasonably complete set of records.

"miscellaneous" workings are usually capped, if at all, by local authorities or individual building contractors with limited resources, often working to little or no information and with few checks made on their activities, frequently many decades after the event.


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