Having - finally - done the (rather troublesome) rota for work, it looks like Sunday May 16th is the preferred option: who's interested?! 🙂

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me 😉

Me too :thumbsup:

I wanted to go last time a few had a look at the area, but something happened, can't remember what it was, but something definitely happened!

Shall we call it the 16th then?

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Me too :thumbsup:

I wanted to go last time a few had a look at the area, but something happened, can't remember what it was, but something definitely happened!

Shall we call it the 16th then?

Yup :)

Event added - http://www.aditnow.co.uk/events/?uid=86  - open to all, please feel free to come along!

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16th is good for me.

Might walk up there in a bit, clouds and hangover are lifting, can just see Bwlch Stwlan now.

Mark 1 syphon empties a 20 gallon drum in about 30 seconds and could be quicker with more head.



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went up today started drain on 2 adits near mill ,one at side of mill ,other directly below mill .others at top 1 has a wall blocking adit , others collapsed .didnt look at bottom ones yet. .but am going back .hope these ones are right ones.

I did get up there on the 1st, sorry Hammond, didn't get a chance to check out your track.

Everything above the tramway was blocked, most with a small wall in the bottom and collapsed behind, a lot of digging to clear them, I make these 1 to 7C. 8 (on the tramway) and below were all accessible I think, I had intended to start at the top and work down taking a picture of each as I went but the weather intervened and I got a bit lost, most had about a foot of water.

15 seems to have been drained, a good place to stop out of the rain and eat kendal mint cake, I've dug this ditch a bit deeper.

18 (boiler mill level) has a big collapse which restricts the water flowing from the adit, access is OK but bit broken up, I've removed some loose hanging rock, water was about 1 1/2 foot deep however a friend has been in with it to waist height and Merddinemrys about a foot from the top. There is no obvious tide line. With the height of the fall and enough rain it could reach the roof. One more thing to check is the landslip above it.

I'll try and get up there the day before and syphon off some water from 18.

Fron Boeth open cast seems to have been underground then un-topped, the pit further in has a tunnel leading south east but no access without a climb (but does contain the skeleton of a cow or horse). I didn't enter this chamber or tunnel.

There is also a slightly odd trial where the tramway and pack horse track meet. Very boggy and low but it may have been there before the tramway, couldn't tell how deep the water inside was and not willing to get wet finding out.

Steve, I assume your talking about the mill at the bottom of Pant Mawr, Fron Boeth Mill has the big boiler.

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Curious, I'm pretty sure that last time we went into 18, it was pretty dry all the way in.

Shall probably dig out the mattock in that case...

Cheers for having a go with 15 - that looks a decent candidate to go into and start off from and see if we can get down from there. I've tried to sort a few more bolts out today, have to get a hold of some more hangers as well.

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I've tried to sort a few more bolts out today, have to get a hold of some more hangers as well.

You can have 4 back next time I see you 🙂

As long as this bolting exercise doesn't turn into another cruel trick - making me carry the drill all day for nothing :lol:

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I guess Steve Turbo might be dealing with 9 and 10, two other good ones (and I expect doing more work than me too)

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I have ordered a couple more bolts/hangers and a handful of hangers from Up & Under http://www.upandunder.co.uk/eshop/catalogue/manufacturer.asp?Activity_ID=8&Description_ID=116  who seem to be quite reasonably priced and were very quick last time I ordered from them.

I'm also trying to get a sensible source for expansion bolts, these (presumably) being something that's also used in industry and that therefore shouldn't be a fiver each!

Prices, incidentally, from Up & Under were:

12mm Petzl Coeur hanger & Goujon bolt - £6.66 (£8.99 elsewhere)
12mm Fixe hanger - £2.10 (the Petzl Coeur hangers can be anything in excess of £4 elsewhere!)

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hello again,the opencast workings at top of fron boeth are cefn y braich separate workings to fron boeth,the mill i was at was the high up pant mawr .

So Steve, are the adits marked as Fron Boeth on the plan actually Cefn y Braich?

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from what i have read in my book cefn braich was open cast ,but who knows for definate. :confused:

I not have 25 rather massive bolts - pic later! 🙂

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Added a few pictures of the upper levels of Pant Mawr and Bwlch Stwlan and associated track and tramway, bit boring I'm afraid.

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which way are you all thinking of walking up ,i walked up from cwm car park ,it nearly killed me so im coming from croesor side next time ..

Room for a little one gents?

I am probably going to Rhiwbach on Saturday with Miles and will camp Saturday night so might aswell make a weekend of it.

Ill add myself in the diary

😉

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Room for a little one gents?

I hope you can carry massive weights ;)

Mr.Kellow's rock drill, perhaps... ::)

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I'll try and source a team of mules but how many I'll get in a mondeo is difficult to say.

If it's a slow and steady climb, then load me up.

:surrender:

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