Can you email me one of the offending files pls?

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yer sure:)

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I like the way this thread is going, and agree all.

As has been discussed before in my postings, you dont really need to be a Photoshop expert.

Windows photo viewer displays photos as they are in landscape view, if its on its side you use the little curved arrows to rotate it, it will automatically save when you close it.
I think the issue revolves around software that automatically rotates the picture from information contained in its properties inc they way that the camera was held when the picture was taken. Unfortunately, its not saved in this way, it only displays it correctly.

If you open your pictures in photo viewer, you will see them 'as they are' if on their side 'just use the little arrows.

This is how you get it:
🔗109995[linkphoto]109995[/linkphoto][/link]

Not in the Start menu for some reason, ( I am using Win 7) you need to open your photo album and highlight the photo you wish to open. Then use the right mouse button to obtain the menus as seen in the picture above.

If you set this as the default program you can open any picture just by double clicking it and it will then open in photo viewer.

Dont install and use the software supplied with the camera. "If you dont install this your pictures may not display correctly". Well yes, but only in that software, not in anything else or on a website.

I have made this as clear as possible.

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Thanks Ian, photo arrived :)

OK, here it is uploaded:

🔗109996[linkphoto]109996[/linkphoto][/link]

And here it is after I opened it in Photoshop, resized it by about 50% and did File > Save As and selected JPEG then saved it with a different file name.

🔗109997[linkphoto]109997[/linkphoto][/link]

What seems to be happening is the original photo was saved horizontal with EXIF data saying "display this rotated 90 degrees counterclockwise".

Windows filer reads this, so when you view the files in a folder you'll see the photo the correct way around.

Photoshop seems to read the EXIF data in so loads the photo in as a vertical photo and then appears to save it correctly rotated.

I didn't rotate that photo, just loaded it into Photoshop and saved it out again.

Whether there is an easier way I don't know!

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Lol... interesting but according to Win PS and that method mine are all right way up ... am gonna have a look what happenswhen I save em on the ext HD again...:angel:

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No disrespect but I have tried to avoid anything technical in my above posting, a lot of folk dont have Photoshop and would not know how to use it anyway.

KIS ?

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My approach basically boiled down to:

Open
Save As

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I could never get on with Photoshop, I'm much too set in my ways to move away from ACD 5.0, does just about everything required at my level of photography.

I am wondering if some advice on this would not be out of place in the "Uploading Photographs" instructions.
What think all?

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Will "Open With Paint"
then save work?
I find Paint is easy to use resizing individual pics.
and it is available on any Windows computer.

Have not got a suspect picture to try.

Will "Open With Paint"
then save work?

Good call!

Here's the original photo - all I have done is:

1, Open in paint
2, File > Save As > JPEG

Nothing else, no cropping, no resizing and no rotating.

🔗110005[linkphoto]110005[/linkphoto][/link]

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Not sure, but that may well be because Paint's default file format is .BMP, so it will strip EXIF data out if so. I have an Action saved in Photoshop called 'EXIF Stripper' that does the above procedure automatically. Sometimes you really don't want EXIF data being out there, as it stores a lot more than just image data.

About camera software, every camera I buy comes with a disk, which I just throw in the bin. Not going to be anything on there that something I already have does better.

As a generalization the tendency is to try and dumb everything down with inevitable results. I bet there are people out there who actually think that you cant open pictures except with whatever software came with the camera, and that everyone is different. Take people off the learning curve and they never learn.
Microsoft are as bad as anyone for this.

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.....every camera I buy comes with a disk, which I just throw in the bin.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :thumbup:

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.....every camera I buy comes with a disk, which I just throw in the bin.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :thumbup:

Yes, but thinking a bit more about it, I wonder if it does something it doesn't tell you about.

Anyone installed one of these using "select all" option and found Internet home page changed, unwanted emails, new pop up ads or anything?

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Will "Open With Paint"
then save work?

Good call!

Here's the original photo - all I have done is:

1, Open in paint
2, File > Save As > JPEG

Nothing else, no cropping, no resizing and no rotating.

🔗110005[linkphoto]110005[/linkphoto][/link]

Just tried it and did not work.
I user an older camera, Fujifilm S9600, so I assume that these older cameras do not add the required information to the picture. I need to go out and buy a better new one for about £25, mm, no thanks.

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Strange you say that Roy, thiswas never an issue on my Bridge Cameras, seem only to be with pics taken on my Fuji DSLRs for me

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Strange you say that Roy, thiswas never an issue on my Bridge Cameras, seem only to be with pics taken on my Fuji DSLRs for me

I suspect it's because the DSLR is newer? And it looks like things are moving away from images being saved the way around they were shot, and towards having the orientation to display saved in the EXIF data.

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I think you right.... gonna have aword with a photographer friend later

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It all seems so silly though when all you have to do is open it in a Windows feature program we will all have and click on an little round arrow. Then we all know which way up it is.

It is worth pursuing this though as the number of incorrectly displayed photographs is increasing and eventually most of the photo database will be a mess. Having said this though, those who take the best pictures will know what they are doing.

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