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rufenig
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"Manicminer" wrote:

"Ty Gwyn" wrote:

Gwynfynydd
The mine shut down in the late 1990's just before the Legislation change that would have made the mine owner liable for pollutants from the mine 'forever'.

At the time that he shut there had been no underground mining for years. He had processed all the low grade store, the tips and even dug up bits of the road. There was nothing left to process, but politics were there as well.

miner1985
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What condition are these mines in. Do they need pumping or do they drain naturally.

Ty Gwyn wnai trio ffonio ti heno.

JohnnearCfon
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One company now has an exploratory license from the Crown to work in the mines in the whole of the Dolgellau Gold Belt.

Most drain naturally, and that in itself is a major problem! NRW do not like their rivers being polluted!

rufenig
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"JohnnearCfon" wrote:
Most drain naturally, and that in itself is a major problem! NRW do not like their rivers being polluted!

They had a fit about people panning for gold in the rivers not long back. allegedly it was killing all the trout eggs and the insects on which they live decimating the wildlife in the area.
That's just a bit of panning!

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"rufenig" wrote:

At the time that he shut there had been no underground mining for years. He had processed all the low grade store, the tips and even dug up bits of the road. There was nothing left to process, but politics were there as well.

The mine itself shut down in 1998 just before the change in the Legislation and the company 'moved' to mine for gold in Ireland but they kidded the shareholders into thinking that they still had an 'active' mine in Wales by having a local man there milling the old dumps and road surface up until 2007.

Gold is where you find it

JohnnearCfon
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I wonder how the "the Legislation change that would have made the mine owner liable for pollutants from the mine 'forever'." would work if the mine was operated by a limited company that could just close itself down? I am thinking any mine not just gold.

Ty Gwyn
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"Ty Gwyn" wrote:

Mentioning that the Snowdonia National Park is Pro small scale mining,was`nt their refusal of extending surface tipping area the main cause of closure and loss of jobs at the last working Gold Mine?

No it was not. You are referring to Gwynfynydd in the mid 1980's when they wanted to use a cable car system to carry the waste over a mile away to a higher point the other side of the valley where they wanted to tip the waste to fill in a hollow between 2 hills. They were going to dump it over a stream etc and create a lot of problems for the future, that and the fact that it would have been highly visible from miles away got it turned down.
The mine shut down in the late 1990's just before the Legislation change that would have made the mine owner liable for pollutants from the mine 'forever'.

I forgot that the CA issued licenses for coal.

Yes it was Gwynfynydd i was thinking of,remember seeing it on the news at the time,i thought at the time it was just an extension of their surface area that was needed,alongside them,
But your local knowledge of the full planning application explains the reason for the refusal.

Is there any reason that the waste rock from the enterprise cannot be used be used in building/civil engineering projects?

Manicminer
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"Ty Gwyn
Is there any reason that the waste rock from the enterprise cannot be used be used in building/civil engineering projects?
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Access is poor - 2 miles of narrow road with 1 stone bridge that has a 16T weight limit and another steel bridge of unknown carrying capacity plus a private property owner half way up that can be quite 'difficult'.

Gold is where you find it

ALLTHATGLITTERS
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#29

Does the Company have Production licence or just exploration ?
I'm ex Gold Fields of South Africa

ALLTHATGLITTERS
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Hi mate, I worked at East Drie 1 shaft but also did the Flood Control room at West Drie

JohnnearCfon
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It is just an exploration license that GMoW have. Obviously they still have to negotiate with individual land owners for access to the mines.

ALLTHATGLITTERS
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Thanks for that. I've been following the exploits of the founding of MIDAS EXPLORATION LIMITED, Barkley john Cossins - Price, Ed McDermott GMOW (Operations) Limited and the Old Lonrho network fronted by Aussie David Anthony Lenigas for many years.

Can anyone explain how "Ed" McDermott, who's just abandoned his legal appointment as a Director of STELLAR RESOURCES PLC, without a Mining Licence, managed to get his hands on 1 ounce of previously undeclared "Pure Welsh Gold" to create a Headline grabbing press article as handing this over for Royal Wedding Rings.

Who could tell (Other than a laboratory Test) if this Royal "Gift" was nothing more than melted down broken scrap from "CASH MY GOLD" outlets

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[mod]I've removed a couple of unnecessary swipes at individuals from the above post.

Consider this a gentle reminder that this site is about mines, mining and mining history - and not about speculation or gossip about people. Similarly, this is not the place for conspiracy theories.

Finally, a reminder that this particular matter has been the subject of legal issues in the recent past, which means that some aspects are not suitable for discussion on a public forum.

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JohnnearCfon
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Something I found whilst following through the various paper trails was a highly amusing name for one individual. At first, I was convinced it was a "made-up" name, but, after doing more digging, apparently it is genuine! Actually, I suppose you couldn't really make up such a name.

The name is-

Damian Conboy! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Ty Gwyn
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#35

I thought the gift of Welsh Gold for the Royal Wedding rings was well before Stellar were involved?

rufenig
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I have seen claims that the gold for royal wedding rings came from, Clogau, Gwnfynedd and Prince of Wales at different times.
I remember that the late George Hall wrote an article about this, it may be in a Welsh Mines newsletter somewhere.

wheldale
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"ALLTHATGLITTERS" wrote:
Hi mate, I worked at East Drie 1 shaft but also did the Flood Control room at West Drie

I worked for goldfields for a year in 97/98. Mostly on West Drie, don't know if it's before your time there, I knew a shiftboss at East Drie called Lee Hulme, great lad but sadly not with us anymore.

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#38

"JohnnearCfon" wrote:
Something I found whilst following through the various paper trails was a highly amusing name for one individual. At first, I was convinced it was a "made-up" name, but, after doing more digging, apparently it is genuine! Actually, I suppose you couldn't really make up such a name.

The name is-

Damian Conboy! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

In the late 1980s I did a brief geological stint at Calliachar Burn near Aberfeldy, during which Simon Hughes and I sunk an open stope on a high-grade but narrow high-sulphidation auriferous vein. We had 6.5 tons of ore from our stope at a head-grade of 158 g/t Au. Neat result given that we were using airpicks as our most powerful tools with no blasting. It was the middle of the stalking season and we had to be quiet, sort of at least. As we finished each evening, often we would hear the stags roaring in the darkness and very close.

But that's all aside. At HQ we got the Mining Journal, and to this day I recall one company dude involved in something or other prospecting-related. His name? Con Allday. It always left me wondering - what were his parents thinking??

Harvey
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I would have thought the Dolgellau goldbelt was pretty well worked out by now. All that sudden fuss over tiny rerturns?
Leave it where it is for future geological interests.
Must they keep raping the area for so little?

This is not big time S Africa.

Harvey.

Mabmeirion
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George Hall's magazine article took a swipe at the Clogau company's claim to have produced gold for royal wedding rings, pointing out, that the original gold provided came from Gwynfynydd, with Princess Marina's ring in the 1930s having come from a small amount from Gwynfynydd, some from Bedd y Coediwr across the valley from Gwynfynydd, and the remainder from Prince Edward mine, nearer Trawsfynydd. He reminded people also that the kilogram bar presented to the royal family in 1983 which has provided more recent rings came from Gwynfynydd when he reopened it for Sir Mark Wienberg. His final comment was that as far as he knew, Clogau had never produced any Welsh gold for the wedding rings.