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simonrl
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14 years ago

A couple of months back I took some photos around one of the Dinorwic inclines. I'm having trouble identifying which one it is. Can anybody advise? (so I can add captions!)

It's behind the power station, the perimeter black fence can be seen in this photograph behind the bottom of the incline.

Photograph:

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I've tried RosieG's Google map of Dinorwic http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=109915291015428156362.000454917b26c70160baa&t=h&z=13 but this one isn't marked.

I think this would have been the back of the Hafod Owen pit.

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JohnnearCfon
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14 years ago

The various "Lift Inclines" (there were at least 4) do not seem to have been part of the main incline numbering system.

Ben Cooper
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14 years ago

"Delving in Dinorwig" has a sketch map which shows what might be this incline - it's unnamed, but the small level it leads to is labelled "Ponc Wyilt" possibly.

There's a similar incline higher up - that one is named "Harriet".

http://www.transientplaces.co.uk

JohnnearCfon
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14 years ago

I assume you are referring to the sketch on page 10. The lower incline to which you refer is much too far to the "right". The "Juliet incline" is a trwnc (tank) incline not a lift incline. I think it is also numbered in the B series.

simonrl
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14 years ago

Thanks chaps, I'll dig the book out and get the captions sorted.

It's certainly a very impressive incline, and very well preserved.

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JohnnearCfon
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14 years ago

There are two still in situ in the quarry. There is also the "preserved" one by the Lake Railway. It is a shame that when they relocated it from Hafod Owen to there they managed to put it on just about the flattest area they could. Also the lifts have never been reassembled.

AndyC
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14 years ago

The one further up the quarry - can you actually access it. I had a poke around a year or so ago and could not find a way.

I am imagining, if they are 'lifts' were they steam powered with a counterweignt truck on one of the tracks?

Been injured while at work and are not to blame?

Get over it.

JohnnearCfon
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14 years ago

I would imagine that lift is accessible by SRT, but otherwise, no.

I am not sure what powered them although the one outside the museum has it's complete winding gear inside. I think they were electrically powered.

grahami
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14 years ago

I believe that while the ones which "lifted" from a pit were electrically powered, the others actually lowered slabs - so were basically an extremely steep carriage incline, gravity worked.

Cheers

Grahami

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blondin
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14 years ago

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The electrically powered ones seemed to have an extra building behind them containing the motors and gearing,such as the hafod owen incline `rebuilt` by cadw in the museum car park(though it is nothing to do with the museum apparently,as they are only responsible for Gilfach Ddu workshops and everything within it,and a small area around the building).
Might be worth contacting the museum though,as they are very helpfull towards Dinorwig and general slate industry matters.

toppo_69
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14 years ago

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hi simon, have a word with thorpey, i know hes spend abit of time around there just recently, he might be able to help you
i know hes away until the end of the week though
paul

simonrl
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14 years ago

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"AndyC" wrote:
The one further up the quarry - can you actually access it. I had a poke around a year or so ago and could not find a way.

I am imagining, if they are 'lifts' were they steam powered with a counterweignt truck on one of the tracks?

Coming back to this a little late, sorry!

Andy - which is the one further up the quarry?

There's two I know of, the one in the photo at the top of this thread (which I don't think is a lift incline), and there's one at the back of the Australia pit. Are there any others?

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JohnnearCfon
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14 years ago

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There is one on one of the levels served by A6 incline. It is located between the A6 incline and the modern tipping from the upper adit of the power staion works (the tip is "country rock" not slate).

I didn't know of one in Australia pit, do you have a photo?

simonrl
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14 years ago

#14

I'm probably getting my pit names mixed up John 😞 I suspect the one I was talking about is the one you're referring to. Right at the bottom of the spoil tip from the big upper gated power station adit.

If it is, you can reach it without rope from at least 4 different directions. I took a few photos of it in the summer, thought I'd uploaded them, but must have forgotten to.

I really need an idiot's guide to identifying the pits.

The one at the beginning of the thread - am I right in thinking that's not a lift incline? If it was, what route would material have taken? Quite a roundabout one I suspect?

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JohnnearCfon
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14 years ago

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Yes, that's the one!

Yes, I am sure it is what was called a lift incline. There were two types basically. The gravity ones, as in the A6x one mentioned above, and the electrical type for lifting loaded wagons from a pit, such as the one re-located to Gilfach ddu from Hafod Owen pit. I think there were some of that type at Wellington pit too.

simonrl
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14 years ago

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Ta for confirming that John! I'll get some pics uploaded in the week if I can find them.

You can reach it in several ways, all require a bit of scrambling and 1 or 2 of them involve going underground!

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blondin
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14 years ago

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there is a photo or two in my uploads to the dinorwig album of the one in australia pit,not the best quality pictures though.

AndyC
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14 years ago

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"simonrl" wrote:

"AndyC" wrote:
The one further up the quarry - can you actually access it. I had a poke around a year or so ago and could not find a way.

I am imagining, if they are 'lifts' were they steam powered with a counterweignt truck on one of the tracks?

Coming back to this a little late, sorry!

Andy - which is the one further up the quarry?

There's two I know of, the one in the photo at the top of this thread (which I don't think is a lift incline), and there's one at the back of the Australia pit. Are there any others?

Hi,

I think I must be referring to the one at the back of Australia Pit (it is the pit below the caban with the coats on hooks). Cheers.

Been injured while at work and are not to blame?

Get over it.

JohnnearCfon
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14 years ago

#19

Are we getting mixed up here with locations?

The lift incline I am referring to is in the left side (when viewed from across the lake so to speak) it is immediately to the right of the A5 to A7 inclines. It is behind the smaller pit known by some as Dahli's Hole (that's the one with petrified trees, sometimes flooded, sometimes not). All the other pits are further to the "right". The caban with coats is more in the "right" side of the quarry (all be it to the left extremity there of!).

I hope that description makes sense!

AndyC
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14 years ago

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Yeah, I think I agree,

when you are by the 'caban with the coats' and look across / down into the pit the incline I am referring to is on the opposite side.

Been injured while at work and are not to blame?

Get over it.