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Simon is this the the incline you originally asked about. The building is indicated by the 'v'?
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14 years ago
That's the one! Thanks Digit!

Would it have been a lift incline?
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Would it have been a lift incline?

Unfortunatly I don't know, its very steep, but I don't think its the steepest. I can't help with its name either only the 'A' and 'C' inclines seem to have reliable names in the public domain. The only comment I can really make about that particular incline is that its a great shame that its so fiendishly difficult to photograph properly due to its location, I've tried several times and not got a decent photo yet.
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14 years ago
Not that difficult to get to, just a long way round!

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There are a few pics in this album http://www.aditnow.co.uk/album/Dinorwig-Slate-Mine-User-Album/  if you want any copies let me know.
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JohnnearCfon
14 years ago
I have always known that as a lift incline. I think I got that name from one of Doug Carrington's books. I do not know if there is any distinction in name between that and the powered versions. Other than the addition of an electric motor, they are pretty much the same.

I have never seen any of them named (numbered?). There are a few "B" numbered inclines but they do not correspond to any lift inclines.
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Sorry, yes that is a decent photo, just not the one I've been trying to get. I been trying to get one that is 'square on' only possible from either across the lake or from the level above the power station buildings. However your second photo interests me in that it I think shows that a published historic photo that I thought showed this incline in the background must be somewhere else. Now I'll have to spend the evening hunting through books and photos.
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14 years ago
"Digit" wrote:

Sorry, yes that is a decent photo, just not the one I've been trying to get.



Don't worry, I know what you meant! Just posted the link in case you hadn't had a look in the album.

The published photo - not the ones in Dinorwic - The Llanberis Slate Quarry of the Hafod Owen lift incline? There was one IIRC where it didn't show much detail so you couldn't entirely tell which way it was taken?
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Incidentally, John... here's the one at the back of the Australia pit which is the one (I think!) AndyC and I were talking about:

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I've been looking at both some published photos, some of my own and some others in Simon's album, on the basis of which here is a thought. There seem to be two basic types of inclines with travellers as follows:-

1. Inclines like those in the Vivian quarry. These have travellers which take the wagons on top, and tracks that terminate just under the upper floor level. Referred to by Carrington in 'Slates to Velinheli' as 'Tank Inclines'. See Page 15, Fig 8.

2. Inclines like the preserved one in Gilfach Ddu which have rails which rise above the upper floor level and travellers which are like the ones preserved at the side of the Museum. (I've always assumed these two travellers are from the preserved incline.) Carrington refers to this type as 'Lift' type see Page 14 Fig 7. The example shown by Carrington clearly has the load (the slate wagon) inside the traveller i.e. the traveller is a 'cage' as in lift.

If the above is reasonable then we have two means of identification:-
1. If the load goes inside the traveller then its a lift.
2. If the inclines rails terminate above the upper floor level then its a lift.
(NOTE Could be electrically powered or a balance type with a drum, just depends on location, does not affect above definitions.)

Looking at Simon's photo I think it passes both tests. Certainly the rails go above the upper floor level. The travellers are damaged but look similar to those stored at the side of the Museum:-
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Anyone care to comment, I'm happy to be shot at if you think I've got it wrong.
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JohnnearCfon
14 years ago
Correct Digit. The "tank inclines" were also known as Trwnc inclines.

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