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stuey
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17 years ago

#21

"spitfire" wrote:
The shaft on United was Hawkes 80 fathoms west of Garlands
now covered over

Just out of interest, where did you get your info from?

:)

spitfire
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17 years ago

#22

Fifty years of research

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stuey
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17 years ago

#23

So, Garland's is on United. The man engine shaft, as close as I can get it from your description and 6" maps is here:-

http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=50.230344&lon=-5.157093&z=17.6&r=0&src=msa

These have been obscured from what I gather.

I wonder if William's has been capped yet (was in line for it).

Anyway, if this drags on too much, we'll have to start a Clifford thread.

spitfire
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17 years ago

#24

Yes that's right and to answer an earlier question; United & Consols were seperate mines; when they merged the group became Clifford Amalgamated

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carnkie
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17 years ago

#25

An interesting point that James observes is that prior to the installation of the man engine at United it took men and boys an hour and a quarter to ascend the ladders. Whether this observation is definitive or not it says a lot.

The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.

stuey
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17 years ago

#26

I've had a crack at a few laddered shafts and the major wait is waiting for "Clear!"

The lower bits of consols were about 270F down from surface. So call it about 500M.

So, 500M/90m = 5.55M/m so 1m every 11 seconds or so.

Bearing in mind platforms, stops to catch your breath, fiddle with your candle, wait for "clear". That's feasible.

I like the quote in "Exploring Cornish Mines" about Consols. It must have been an unbelievable place. Some hooray henry rocked up and described what he saw.

Peter Burgess
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17 years ago

#27

"carnkie" wrote:
An interesting point that James observes is that prior to the installation of the man engine at United it took men and boys an hour and a quarter to ascend the ladders. Whether this observation is definitive or not it says a lot.

Call me a cynic, but my guess is that the comfort of the miners took second place to being able to get the men to work quicker so they could produce more mineral and make better profits for the investors.

spitfire
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17 years ago

#28

There is nothing cynical at all about your remarks. The hard truth is the deeper mines were becoming unworkable not only because of the climbing involved but the strength sapping heat. At the bottom of Tresavean the air temp' would have been over 100F

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stuey
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17 years ago

#29

Funnily enough, "Hot Lode" at United Mines was among the worst and aptly named.

carnkie
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17 years ago

#30

Talking of lodes it would apppear that Olde Lode ran from Camborne Parish through Carnkie to Baldhu. I take it this lode is the one you can see on the Symons1850 map runnung along north of the road in Carnkie, and past Lyle's Shaft. Then presumably picked up again around the boundary of W. Wheal Basset and S. Francis. Mind this an assumption on my part.

The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.