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18 years ago
I've heard that Carnglaze is the only underground slate quarry in The west country, does anyone know of any other?
As for Carnglaze - well, I know of three chambers, one enormous, one flooded, and one annoyingly converted into somehere to hold music concerts. Though I've read a book that states the full extent of the workings might never be knowa, due to backfilling.
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18 years ago
nop, there is penracca slate mine near bucfastleigh in mid devon, its quite big but access is tricky 😞
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simonrl
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18 years ago
Is that tricky as in risky/technical, or tricky as in still being worked and secure?

Ta!
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18 years ago
even if so, it'd still be interesting to photograph the external areas (if accessible), cos they're one of the west's only slate mines. I think there are some near Tintagal, but these are mainly opencast, can anyone prove me wrong? 😉
Surely we'd know about it if it was being worked...
http://www.lookaroundcornwall.com/panos/carnglaze.htm 
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ferret
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18 years ago
penrecca is long ceased work but covert access is not recommended as legit access is being negotiated, the club I belong too and DCUC are involved(access was setup for clubs but this is in dispute at the moment) watch this space ::)
and yes there are lots of working near tintagle and Delebole but as fare as I know opencast only
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simonrl
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18 years ago
Thanks Ferret
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18 years ago
no worries :thumbsup:
as you know I’ve been lurking on the site for a while
and could help as i live in the area!
LAP
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18 years ago
Cold you tell me anything about the structure of the mine? 😉
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ferret
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18 years ago
np-
its a reasonable size mine, adit level access to a few interlinked chambers, high level access via a shaft to one of the chambers though a hole in the side, nothing big by north Wales standards but a fair size
no real archaeology but some nice formations on the bottom level.

Will let you guys know when access is agreed and pass on details, should be soon i hope
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Cheers, are there any pics around? 😉
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ferret
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18 years ago
not really, i ma publish some of my own sometime but not until the access is set up!
LAP
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18 years ago
When was it last worked, & are there any others in the West?
Thanks! - your info was appreciated... 😉
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ferret
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18 years ago
not certain to be honest but pre 1920s i think..
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18 years ago
"LAP" wrote:

even if so, it'd still be interesting to photograph the external areas (if accessible), cos they're one of the west's only slate mines. I think there are some near Tintagal, but these are mainly opencast, can anyone prove me wrong? 😉
Surely we'd know about it if it was being worked...
http://www.lookaroundcornwall.com/panos/carnglaze.htm 



There were underground slate workings in the cliffs between Tintagel and Trebarwith Strand - one beach is called 'Hole Beach' after the adit in the cliffside. No idea about access though - you'd probably need to abseil down from above.

Delabole (opencast) is of course still working, and does quarry tours most days.
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18 years ago
I used to go to Treborough Slate Quarry in Somerset (Brendon Hills, Exmoor National Park) in the Eighties to monitor for landfill gas as it was being backfilled with refuse. One of the sampling point was a tunnel where the slate would be trammed out to the dressing mills.
In "Exmoor's Industrial Archaeology" (Ed Michael Atkinson 1997) it states "It is believed that there were extensive underground workings at Treborough, but access was blocked off years ago"
The main pit has long since been filled with rubbish and closed. The Adit is gated and there is a nature trail through the dumps.

On a different note, Treborough churchyard has gravestones to quarrymen from North Wales.
LAP
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18 years ago
Arr... so it would appear that Carnglaze isn't the only slate mine in the west... :thumbsup:
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Pryt nam dyweid - poryth na'm dowaith
Py gynheil y byt - Pa gonail y byth
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Tin Miner
18 years ago
Regarding Penn Recca Slate Mine - The following is a report that appeared in a local newspaper of 1854:

The adit at Lower Combe runs almost due north into the hillside. It opens at the end of a small cutting, near some ruined mine buildings now overgrown with trees. A little further down the hillside are tips of waste slate, not very extensive and containing probably little more than the rubble extracted from the main adit. The entrance itself is about six foot square, and the adit maintains this size with little variation throughout its length. For the first 1550 ft. the adit is straight, and daylight may still be seen more than a quarter of a mile inside. The floor slopes very gradually downward towards the entrance, and a low concrete barrier has been built there to retain the water that drains down the adit. A cast iron pipe collects this water, which is then used for drinking purposes in the parish of Staverton. A gate is fitted at the mouth of the adit to prevent contamination of the water by visitors or animals.
Some 40 ft. inside the entrance there is a branch passage of similar section on the right (east), coming to a dead end after 140 ft. When the Combe adit was being constructed, shafts were evidently sunk from the hillside above. At some subsequent time they were bridged across at the lower ends and filled with rubble. No trace remains on the surface, but in the roof of the adit can be seen the timbers and jammed boulders, fortunately now cemented together by stalagmite deposition. The shafts occur at 480 ft. 990 ft. and 1108 ft. from the entrance. The exact date of the filling is not known but it was certainly much later than the time of the original construction. A conversation with a man of about 50 years of age suggests that it took place about 1910. He recalled seeing a little girl playing dangerously close to the shafts when he was of Sunday school age, and added that they were filled in shortly afterwards when some donkeys had been injured in there.
A new steam engine has been erected at Recca slate quarry, and a number of men are engaged at the works. Devonport Journal: Thursday 30th November 1854.

Regards Tin Miner
LAP
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18 years ago
Thanks for that interesting pieco of info 😉 Looks worth a visit (once access is sorted).
Ps: In the book "underground Britain" it has a section on Carnglaze. According to most guides "the mine has three chambers"... but in this book it says "the full extent of the caverns may never be known due to excessive backfilling" Does anyone know of any maps/surveys of Carnglaze. I seem to realise that the original entrance is well backfilled up, so upon entering you descend some stairs from a higher floor down to the main floor.
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simonrl
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18 years ago
Thanks for the information Tin Miner, very interesting read, and welcome to the forum :)

Is there any news on the access situation at Penn Recca?
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Tin Miner
18 years ago
Regarding Carnglaze Caverns: I'm suprised Tom the Stick (ferret) didn't inform you that Carnglaze Caverns is now a tourist attraction with concrete floors etc, and is also used as a venue for concerts and seats 400. There is the "Rum Bar" within the cavern. I actually know the owner, who has allowed us access to the adit level and where the public do not go. The lower levels are now flooded making not much accessible now.

Regarding Penn Recca Slate Mine: I can take a trip in there almost anytime through the top entrace which will invlove a 120 ft. descent down a shaft. I understand that the bottom entrance (Adit) has now been secured with a new lock as the last lock was broken off and caused a tremendous amount of problems as this adit level is the main water supply to the valley farms etc.
If anyone wishes to have a trip I'll organise it, but you'll have to be SRT competent.

Regards Tin Miner

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