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AR
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#21

Probably the best plan to look at would be the modern one with the planning application which is online- I'll track it down and post a link.

Alternatively, there are plans of Hucklow Edge in "the Red Book" (Lead Mining in the Peak District), either of Jim Riewerts latest offerings(Lead Mining in Derbyshire vol 1 and Adventurers in the Lead Trade) or "Lead in the Veins"

Follow the horses, Johnny my laddie, follow the horses canny lad-oh!

kroca
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11 years ago

#22

Thanks guys . 😉

kroca
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#23

Hi Adam, had a look at the plan and it looks like a big stope roof has fell in, sadly this may now be the end, they were on a shoe string to start with, hope not . 😞

John Lawson
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#24

Whilst I have not analysed every response, as I understood the fluorspar market, the main demand was for metallurgical grade spar, the acid grade being less so.
This certainally was the position in the 80's and 90's and hence the involvement of British Steel in the fluorspar mines of the north of England.
Are you guys saying that this is now all changed and the only future is for acid spar?
If this is the case, then another story, I heard in my youth springs to mind.
The story I was told is that Imperial Smelting(now R.T.Z.) wanted to get a better price for HF than that provided by the Rocksavage works of I.C.I. To help them do this they started up the Anglo-Austral company based on the wartime flotation plant at Nenthead to run for 10 years, to enable them to get the right price.
Again are they simply not trying to force down the price by using this threat?

Brakeman
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11 years ago

#25

Hopefully it will be the roof of an old mine stope, the haulage road to Milldam runs close but will be 400' below here , the slits I think are north of this area & the stope is more to the west.

No doubt the new mine owners will get the blame regardless.

The management thanks you for your co operation.

AR
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#26

"John Lawson" wrote:
Whilst I have not analysed every response, as I understood the fluorspar market, the main demand was for metallurgical grade spar, the acid grade being less so.
This certainally was the position in the 80's and 90's and hence the involvement of British Steel in the fluorspar mines of the north of England.
Are you guys saying that this is now all changed and the only future is for acid spar?

That may have been the case with the North Pennines, but Derbyshire has for a long time been focused on acid grade, from what I've heard Guilinis bought out the bankrupt Fluorspar UK to secure themselves a supply of acid grade. They've put a lot of money into refurbishing Cav Mill and more into getting Milldam running and this is for supplying chemical feedstock, not furnace flux. There's a small-scale operation at Smalldale supplying met grade to the Sheffield specialist steel producers but everytthing else is producing silica-free acid grade.

Follow the horses, Johnny my laddie, follow the horses canny lad-oh!

kroca
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11 years ago

#27

Yes brakeman,I think your right its a big old stope on slaters engine mine, the shaft is only ten meters away from the fall of ground ,and i`d put the top of the stope a good 60 -70 meters down,good luck to the lads at Milldam all the same.

droid
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11 years ago

#28

Getting back to a previous tangent: my attitude to extractive industry in the Peak Park is somewhat ambiguous. I understand the need for jobs: in my old village (Hathersage) about the only scoolmates that still live there have a) inherited their house and b) work for themselves.

However, I also understand the wish to preserve the 'environment' that people visit to see. That generally doesn't incluse a sod-off great quarry or opencast spar extraction.

Then there's the destuction of industrial archaeology....

Having said that, you'd hardly know the Lafarge quarry was there if you diodn't know where to look, and the same goes for the Longstone and Bradwell spar extractions.

Ambiguous.....

pwhole
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11 years ago

#29

I agree that the Hope Valley quarry is an excellent example of how to 'hide a hole' - I'm always impressed with the view from the Hope Road approaching Castleton, as there's just nothing but a wooded valley visible from any angle. I guess that was partly good fortune with the topography, but even so, it's a very tasteful cloaking of a truly immense void.

Once you can see the quarry, from up around the Siggate, I find it so breathtaking that I can forgive the trashing of some of the old industrial archeology. There's still plenty up there, though a shame that some of the really important sites are no longer accessible due to proximity.

Moss Rake also has some very interesting features still remaining here and there amidst the moonscape 😉

droid
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11 years ago

#30

Agreed.

I'd be happy to see development with due consideration to the more interesting remains. It would be good is the post-extraction landscaping didn't obliterate all the remains.

Roger the Cat
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11 years ago

#31

Just came across this on my afternoon news prowl.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2530915/Get-ready-MONTH-bad-weather-After-floods-storms-driving-rain.html

ebgb
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11 years ago

#32

on the beeb also:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-25554549

http://bf494.co.uk

AndyC
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11 years ago

#33

"ebgb" wrote:
on the beeb also:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-25554549

Is the second photo in the BBC link a desperate attempt at matricide?

Been injured while at work and are not to blame?

Get over it.

AR
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#34

http://pam.peakdistrict.gov.uk/?r=NP%2FGDO%2F0614%2F0686&q=0686&s=3234321 , some of the plans/sections are interesting.

Follow the horses, Johnny my laddie, follow the horses canny lad-oh!

Brakeman
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11 years ago

#35

Hmm, interesting some of that, unfortunate set of events really for BFL. It does show however that even though these old lead mine shafts have been infilled and stable for many years can suddenly become unstable with large amounts of surface water finding it's way down, especially in areas of shale.

The management thanks you for your co operation.