Hello, I am trying to gain information on Hady Lane site, Chesterfield, Derbyshire previously a Mining Area and known locally as Hady Scrubs. Any information regarding what we believe are 3 shafts, only 1 beleived is capped. We would also like information of any possible Industrial Archaeology which may lay hidden beloew soil level.This area was also a Landfill site and we are interested if anyone is aware what may have been there. i.e to contaminate soil. ALL help appreciated as this site is under threat of development. 🙂

There could have been coal mining, ironstone mining or both round there. Have you looked at old 6" and 25" OS maps, or checked if there's anything in the DRO at Matlock, such as abandonment plans? Likewise, have you made any enquiries with the Coal Authority?

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If there are any records of the shaft treatments the Coal Authority should hold any records, although what they hold depends on a few factors. They will also have the mine plans for the coal (and likely to include the other minerals mined). Some of the mine plans and old OS map may tell you what surface buildings etc may of been there; although if there has been a later landfill then everything may have gone.

If you want to investigate the shafts you will need some permission / indemnity for the owner (probably the Coal Authority).

Information about the landfill etc will depend on it's age but information should be with either the Council or the Environment Agency. They should also be able to tell you if the site is already classified as contaminated.

EA info for Hady Lane Landfill:
http://maps.environment-agency.gov.uk/wiyby/queryController?topic=waste&ep=2ndtierquery&lang=_e&layerGroups=2&x=439873.244&y=370508.01&extraClause=HLD_REFERENCE~ 'EAHLD04842'&textonly=off&latestValue=&latestField=

Prior to development and possibly dependant on the area of development the site may require an investigation

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A quick scan of the area on Old Maps shows a scatter of old coal pits on the first edition 25" map and on most of the subsequent ones. As they're shown as old back then, there are very unlikely to be any abandonment plans, just from looking at the scatter it looks like there may be an outcrop of a coal seam somewhere lower down the hill, with small shaft workings (possibly 18th century) further up the hill. That would be best confirmed by looking at a 6" geological map, which you may find Chesterfield library have.

Coal mines of that age wouldn't leave a great deal in the way of surface remains, at best you might have the footings of small miner's sheds and possibly a gin circle (the circular walk for a horse-powered winding or pumping engine). However, below ground you probably have pillar and stall workings, where the miners excavated out the coal in a grid pattern, leaving pillars of coal to support the roof. That could mean that there are still a whole load of sub-surface voids, which any potential developer would need to check for by test drilling, and if there are voids these would normally need to be filled by grouting if there was going to be building on top.

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THE AREA IN QUESTION WAS USED AS A TIP BY CBC TILL THE MID 70's BEFORE CURRENT REGS CAME IN FORCE SO EVERYTHING WENT.THERE IS A METHANE DRAINAGE PLANT ON SITE'THE AREA WAS LANDSCAPED & OBLITERATED ANY IA
MOST MINING AT THE HADY LANE WAS EITHER OPEN WORK OR BELLPIT AS MOST SEAMS BASSET OUT HERE

The Derby Mercury newspaper of 21 July 1775 p4c1 recorded that
"Saturday last a Collier going down into a Coal-Pit to work, at Headay, near Chesterfield in this County, he was unfortunately suffocated by the Damp which was then in the Pit. He has left a Wife and two Children."

There's also mentionsof the area in a couple of Mining History articles on ironstone mining:
http://www.pdmhs.com/PDFs/ScannedBulletinArticles/Bulletin%2013-4%20-%20Ironstone%20Mining%20in%20Derbyshire.pdf 
http://www.pdmhs.com/PDFs/ScannedBulletinArticles/Bulletin%2013-5%20-%20Observations%20on%20Ironstone%20Mining%20in%20Derbyshire.pdf 

Given the former use of the site for coal mining and pre-environmental regulations tipping, there's potentially a big remediation spend needed to make this land safe for building on. If a planning app goes in and there hasn't been a thorough ground testing and geochemical/environmental analysis submitted with the application, then you could make the case that the ground is not safe for development.

One other thing, could an admin take a look at alexECP's post? It's displaying what I assume is his IP address, but if you quote it you then find the text appears to have been pasted in as an image.

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Thanks for all the responses. Very informative and helpful. One minor problem/question....where can I view 6" maps?

Thanks again. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Seems a toxic site to me! Great info..... :thumbsup:

Thanks for all the responses. Very informative and helpful. One minor problem/question....where can I view 6" maps?

Thanks again. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

If you are lucky they may be in the local library. Failing that the nearest archive office. Pot luck as just depends if they have them or not.

Presuming you live in Chesterfield - either the local studies library in Chesterfield, or (definitely) the Local Studies Library at Matlock (Although that is in a slight degree of chaos at present, as the DRO has been shoved in with them whilst the DRO office is refurbished).

Thanks a lot. P

Good advice. Thanks very much.P

have uploaded some plans to my personel album which may be of interest.they are mostly from chesterfield local studies.
the area was tipped by cbc up to the late 70's before current regulations & any & everything was tipped there.
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One can view a range of old large scale maps at
http://www.old-maps.co.uk/maps.html 

Just type "hady" into the search box

Just what the Doctor ordered! Great help. Thanks very much. P

Wow, all this help is amazing ! Thanks so much to everyone.... :thumbsup:

There is a large 25" scale old OS map of Chesterfield on the wall in Chesterfield Museum on St Mary's Gate, might be worth a look.

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