Morlock
13 years ago
All the free info I can find. Scotland & Shale Oil pulls up a bit of info.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_oil_shale_industry 
gmac101
13 years ago
I was just going to say all that. The Bings of waste are still visible to the west of Edinburgh - near Bathgate!
One of my ancestors my 2 x Great Grandfather whose main business was woollen manufacture owned shares in the Coy and sat on the board for awhile.
The industry didn't survive the rise of conventional oil - who knows what the future holds.

ChrisJC
13 years ago
"exspelio" wrote:


Anyone ever mined shale??



There's a whole bunch of underground shale mines near Edinburgh. A NAMHO (was it 2008) conference had some field meets there.

Chris.
exspelio
13 years ago
Maybe this can give us a window on the helmet, if it was for shale mining in Scotland, Yorkshire coal is out of it ,:(
Frack it !! :blink:
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Aditaddict
13 years ago
looks like the front peak has been cut off
Roy Morton
13 years ago
"Aditaddict" wrote:

looks like the front peak has been cut off



Maybe to accomodate a carbide lamp. Some of them had water tanks that woud bump against the helmets peak and stop the lamp from sliding into the clip. Sounds like a caver mod.
The crown? symbol surrounding the laetters looks like the same one that M&Q stamp on all their approved kit. Oldham lamp glasses for instance.
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13 years ago
"Morlock" wrote:

All the free info I can find. Scotland & Shale Oil pulls up a bit of info.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_oil_shale_industry 


Try this
http://www.scottishshale.co.uk/GazMines/AAMinesIntro.html 

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exspelio
13 years ago
If you go into the link put up by Lipsi and surf about in there, there are 'photos of miners using carbide "stinkies".
Incidently Roy, the bottom chamber on a stinky held the carbibe, not the water.
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13 years ago
I have one very similar to that but with the usual peak - and my little Premier carbide lamp doesn't sit on it very well so there may well be something in Roy's theory there :thumbup:

Will post a photo if anybody is interested but I think mine is a fairly standard design?
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exspelio
13 years ago
I seem to remember we used to bend the bracket on the lamp back so that it would fit the helmet, but then you had to bend the reflector down so you could see where you were going! 😞 😞
(I was much younger then!) πŸ™‚
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Pinzgauer
13 years ago
Two lamp mounting variants seem to be have been employed on the mushies. This I presume was for the two different variants of the small helmet mounted Premier carbide lamp. Some Premiers have the "blade" fitted to engage the helmet bracket, some, like mine, have a sturdy wire "hook" and two springs grips at the side.

The hook fits into a hole that exists in the fibre above the bracket. The two springy clips grip the side of the bracket support. With the proper variant, the rubber bumper dooferiser on the lamp base just sits snugly on the peak. No butchery required!

Were there not 2 manufacturers of the mushy ? Huw Wood (as prev. mentioned ) and Cromwell (??).
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13 years ago
"Roy Morton" wrote:

"Aditaddict" wrote:

looks like the front peak has been cut off



Maybe to accomodate a carbide lamp. Some of them had water tanks that woud bump against the helmets peak and stop the lamp from sliding into the clip. Sounds like a caver mod



Don't think anything has been chopped off or modded. Its just how they came as per Simonrail's earlier post.

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13 years ago
I'd always imagined Cleveland ironstone miners to be a tad more masculine than that.
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"rikj" wrote:

I'd always imagined Cleveland ironstone miners to be a tad more masculine than that.



Its one one of the Skelton Pits.
They had to bring in outside models for the photograph as they thought the additional limbs & digits on the locals might frighten small children.
christwigg
13 years ago
Aditaddict
13 years ago
"RJV" wrote:

"Roy Morton" wrote:

"Aditaddict" wrote:

looks like the front peak has been cut off



Maybe to accomodate a carbide lamp. Some of them had water tanks that woud bump against the helmets peak and stop the lamp from sliding into the clip. Sounds like a caver mod



Don't think anything has been chopped off or modded. Its just how they came as per Simonrail's earlier post.

πŸ”—North-Skelton-Iron-Mine-Archive-Album-Image-40039[linkphoto]North-Skelton-Iron-Mine-Archive-Album-Image-40039[/linkphoto][/link]

I was going off this picture by an earlier contributor

http://images.scran.ac.uk/RB/images/thumb/0111/01110002.jpg 

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