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13 years ago

Just grabbed this from an antiques store near to me.

It's old Yorkshire Miners hat. haven't done any research into it so far, so no idea on age and even where or who made it!

Any ideas?

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Llion
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13 years ago

Something Darth Vader wore ?

🅱Me... Back n Boogying ag wrth n modd

exspelio
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13 years ago

Looks like the old compressed paper hat that were in use in the '40's & 50's, though they had a peak. My first caving helmet was one of these, they didn't take too kindly to being stored wet, you had to re-shape it and dry it out before using it again!

Always remember, nature is in charge, get it wrong and it is you who suffers!.

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13 years ago

"Llion" wrote:

Something Darth Vader wore ?

And then he used to put an oldham lamp on the front and do his best R2D2 impersonation.

christwigg
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13 years ago

'Bathgate Forge' seems to point to Scotland.

exspelio
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13 years ago

"christwigg" wrote:
'Bathgate Forge' seems to point to Scotland.

Where did that come from???

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christwigg
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13 years ago

Written on the side of the helmet in the photo :lol:

simonrail
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13 years ago

Looks very similar to the compressed paper helmets used in the Cleveland ironstone mines in the 1950s. They were made by Huwood of Gateshead and the big rectangular chunk supporting the caplamp holder contained a plastic visor which could be pulled down to protect the eyes.

Yes, I'll have it - what is it?

inbye
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13 years ago

Very unusual...I have a few of these but never seen anything like this one. With that "peak" to the rear, wondering if it had a specialist use...rescue or underground firefighter? etc?

Regards, John...

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exspelio
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13 years ago

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"christwigg" wrote:
Written on the side of the helmet in the photo :lol:

I can't make that out but it looks lik MD written under the lamp bracket.

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inbye
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13 years ago

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"exspelio" wrote:

"christwigg" wrote:
Written on the side of the helmet in the photo :lol:

I can't make that out but it looks lik MD written under the lamp bracket.

Yes, MD,C? in a crown, a bit like the old "flameproof" crown on safety lamp glasses. There's the word PATENT underneath & also a word I can't make out, around the bottom of the crown...

Regards, John...

Huddersfield, best value for money in the country, spend a day there & it'll feel like a week........

inbye
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13 years ago

#12

Spent many a happy hour working with one of the compressed paper helmets on...OK when just moistened by sweat, but when I moved to a face in the "Flockton" seam, not good. You had to remember to chuck your boots in the locker first, followed by the helmet. If you did it the other way around the first half-hour of the next shift, was very uncomfortable :glare: :lol:

Regards, John...

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Roy Morton
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13 years ago

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"inbye" wrote:

"exspelio" wrote:

"christwigg" wrote:
Written on the side of the helmet in the photo :lol:

I can't make that out but it looks lik MD written under the lamp bracket.

Yes, MD,C? in a crown, a bit like the old "flameproof" crown on safety lamp glasses. There's the word PATENT underneath & also a word I can't make out, around the bottom of the crown...

MDC.... is that the year it was made? ::)

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Pinzgauer
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13 years ago

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I think a lot of folk started their mine sniffing/poking exploits with the compressed fibre helmet - the trusty "Mushy". Only marginally stronger under compressive load than a soggy Weetabix! Mine still lurks in the loft. Much to others amusement, I kept mine slathered in black boot polish and bulled up big time. Result - it never absorbed moisture and it remained rock hard ...er..well... pretty robust!

A "Mushy" , an Oldham Wheat and a snap tin full of Mars Bars. Happy days !!! 😉

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exspelio
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13 years ago

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Best I can do with my limited software!

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christwigg
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13 years ago

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Bit clearer here.

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13 years ago

#17

Thank you for all of your replies.

Only other thing to note, is that the helmet is of a small size. I have a small head, and it doesn't fit me at all. it's more than likely for a teenager.

Unfortunately, some of the writing is cut off at the bottom, all i can make out is

"Bathcat...... Forced"

exspelio
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13 years ago

#18

Christwigg has obviously got better software than me! 🙂 it certainly looks like "Bathgate_ _ _ (F)orged", it also looks like a peak has been cut off, probably to accomodate a visor.
Maybe we should be looking at the "M D C" part of it as a manufacturers trademark, it does say "Patent" afterall!

Always remember, nature is in charge, get it wrong and it is you who suffers!.

Morlock
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13 years ago

#19

"The peak carries an embossed trademark "MDC patent". ... Event: Description: Shale miner's safety helmet . Embossed trade mark "MDC patent". References ..."

http://www.scran.ac.uk/database/record.php?usi=000-000-094-402-C

🙂

exspelio
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13 years ago

#20

Sorry, can't get the details and not about to pay for subscription, please tell us more 🙂
Although this one looks like one of those paper hats with a leather top, seen 'em, never had one :)
Anyone ever mined shale??

Always remember, nature is in charge, get it wrong and it is you who suffers!.