BertyBasset
4 years ago
With regard to 18., it is probably better known without the optional first word.
skimble
4 years ago
18 Castell Carndochan
BertyBasset
4 years ago
"skimble" wrote:

18 Castell Carndochan



And there it is!
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4 years ago
"BertyBasset" wrote:


"skimble" wrote:

18 Castell Carndochan



And there it is!




I'm still sweating over Davel's Nr 19.

:curse:
Yma O Hyd....
BertyBasset
4 years ago
"sinker" wrote:


I'm still sweating over Davel's Nr 19.
:curse:



I notice it contains the word 'adit', but I reckon he's put that in as a red herring.
skimble
4 years ago
"BertyBasset" wrote:

"sinker" wrote:


I'm still sweating over Davel's Nr 19.
:curse:


I notice it contains the word 'adit', but I reckon he's put that in as a red herring.


It also contains the word 'twll' and, separately, the word 'ismaeliaid'.
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"skimble" wrote:

It also contains the word 'twll' and, separately, the word 'ismaeliaid'.


... and Twll Ismaeliaid it is! See Atlas Sir Gaernarfon: Hanes a Daearyddiaeth E H Owen & E Thomas (1954)

Gwynfor Pierce Jones records it as David's Quarry (which seemed sort of apt) – however I'm pretty sure the grid reference (SH503547) is incorrect in both those sources. I suspect that they both refer to New Vronheulog quarry or one of the smaller pits close by.

For the sake of completeness, 'Ismaeliaid' is the Welsh form of Ishmaelites (the descendants of Abraham's son Ishmael) and William Tisdale was a 16th century English musician and composer of the virginal school (well, that's what Wikipedia says). :smartass:

Dave
skimble
4 years ago
These are slate:

20. Peafowls nicer
21. Micawber waded
22. Now refry by hand
23. Forged snowy day (aka Forced snowy day - the joys of treigladau)

The next mine is neither slate nor this side of the pond but I thought I'd offer it anyway:

24. Emirs cast myrrh
ChrisJC
4 years ago
21. Abercwmeiddaw
ChrisJC
4 years ago
20. Prince of Wales.
ChrisJC
4 years ago
24: Merry Christmas.
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22: Bryn Hafod y Wern
my orders are to sit here and watch the world go by
skimble
4 years ago
Four down, 23 to go. 🙂
cantclimbtom
4 years ago
23 still beats me, the hint was given.. it has a feminine c/g noun? Arghh still not getting it
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ChrisJC
4 years ago
The clue is that in Welsh, the consonant at the start of a word can mutate to a different one depending on the ending of the previous word.
You might see Mynydd / Fynydd, or Coch, Goch, Moch.

So there is a word in there that you might see as a 'C', or a 'G'.

Caveat: I don't speak any Welsh.

Chris.
skimble
4 years ago
"cantclimbtom" wrote:

23 still beats me, the hint was given.. it has a feminine c/g noun? Arghh still not getting it


The first word is a feminine c/g noun.
cantclimbtom
4 years ago
"ChrisJC" wrote:

The clue is that in Welsh, the consonant at the start of a word can mutate to a different one depending on the ending of the previous word.
You might see Mynydd / Fynydd, or Coch, Goch, Moch.

So there is a word in there that you might see as a 'C', or a 'G'.

Caveat: I don't speak any Welsh.

Chris.



Understood about mutations, Canol/Ganol etc. My Dad speaks good Welsh, but sorry to say I don't. Welsh anagramming does put Sais like me on the back foot, got to keep it a challenge 🙂
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4 years ago


23. Croes y Ddwy Afon :smartass:


Yma O Hyd....
skimble
4 years ago
Yay! ;D

Incidentally, this quarry has two entries on AN, one for Croes... and one for Groes... Perhaps Simon could merge them?
BertyBasset
4 years ago
Another handful of Welsh slate:

25. DD Girly, New Toy.
26. Nah! Lady Flo
27. Thy Screwballs
28. Farty Ginnhy G
29. Has Adolf?

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