carnkie
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16 years ago
I've been entering into the DB some of the major mine disasters that have occurred over the years for the obvious reasons. I was slightly surprised that they were not already there. Some were obviously in Wales and I'm slightly concerned that they may have had 75 other names so my mine check may have missed them. If anyone realises this let me know and I'll delete.
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ICLOK
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16 years ago
How do you mean entering mine disasters on the DB you mean in the text I assume??
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viewer
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16 years ago
Carnkie

I do not believe "you are not very welcome" on this site. I believe everyone who adds something is welcome, as well as those that wish to improve their knowledge/understanding or just have an interest.

You certainly add a lot to the site and do NOT be put off by those that can only answer your posts in a condescending and unfortunate manner.

I enjoy your posts so keep em coming!

EDIT: And you're only seven away from the big 1000!

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Vanoord
16 years ago
"carnkie" wrote:

I just mean major disasters should be recorded. Nothing else.
It's becoming fairly obvious to me that I'm not particulary welcome on this site,



Quite the opposite - your input is very much appreciated and welcomed :)

And yes, I would agree that any notable historic events should be recorded against the mine description in the database, whatever they be.

From time to time, accidents are discussed and sometimes historic research can cast a light on things that one happens across under different circumstances.

For example, I recall a discussion on here a while back about an accident in Cwmorthin where a bridge collapsed under the weight of a number (3?) of slab trucks: this lead to some debate about where the accident had happened and I'm not sure if we ever decided exactly where it was.

About six months later, Miles discovered a sign in the same sort of vicinity in the mine:

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As far as can be discerned, it reads:

"No more than one loaded
truck at a time
allowed to pass over
one of the bridges such as
not to exceed 3 tons including
wagon or trolley"

This seems to have been a direct response to the very accident that had been discussed; yet without that background knowledge, it would be a much less interesting artefact. It also serves as a very good reminder of the dangers of bridges, to be told to people as one shows them around the mine - and to those who are not familiar with the mine it serves as a very tangible link to a past they know nothing of.
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ICLOK
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16 years ago
I just asked a simple question..... where were they going to be put.....as I was intrigued as to whether it meant writing them all up as a description (huge task) or was their somewhere they were going to be put as a document, ie was their an actual place specially for them in the site as it would not have surprised me if their was. Its a good idea!
So I am not apologising for asking a question that was well meant.
Sadly the internet comes and goes here so could not get back to the site until now. :flowers:
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JohnnearCfon
16 years ago
I am not sure I am understanding this correctly either?

Carnkie, are you proposing entering the mine disasters as a seperate entry? If so, I cannot see the point, surely a mine disaster is, by definition, associated with a particular mine, therefore should be mentioned under the descrpition if needed. I think making it a seperate entry will only confuse things more. Or have you got some other idea and I have misunderstood.

I do not know what gives you the impression you are not welcome here, you add a lot (in all senses) to the site.

I think the trouble with these forums (on all subjects) and same with messenger type things is you type something meaning it one way not realising it can be read more than one way! The quickly written word does not carry the feeling of what you wrote.
Vanoord
16 years ago
John: disasters are being added to the descriptions of existing mines and quarries in the database, as such events are an important part of the history of a location.

The mine descriptions are becoming an increasingly useful feature of the database and much thanks is due to those who have spent a lot of time inputting this.


To be honest, I don't think the opening post was particularly ambiguous ::)

[tweak]I've locked the topic as this is going nowhere! I've also pruned a bit - no offence intended to anyone who has seen posts disappear![/tweak]
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carnkie
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16 years ago
To clarify this. When I looked at the ten major British mine disasters I found that none of the mines were in the DB. Or at least so it appeared. I was a bit surprised because historically they are quite important. All I have done is enter them. I wasn't really suggesting anything else so apologise if I gave that impression.
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