Whilst adding some of the new sites to the database and more recently it has come to light there is not a category for Works. I'm thinking of Iron Works, Brick Works, Arsenic Works. Any other types of works?

At the moment they appear to be added (including by myself) in as factory. The works are generally known as works.

Would a new category of site for Works be useful? - I was thinking of Works as a Category and the other part (iron, brick etc) could come from the mineral type.


A second type of entry which appears to be missing are drainage adits / soughs. At the moment I put these on as XXX Sough with a Tunnel Category. Unfortunately throughout the country these types of features are known as different names such as soughs, water drifts, gutters, drainage adits, waterlooses - and I don't think having all these variations for the same thing would be useful. Although I try to use all these variations (dependant on geographic area) I would be fairly ok with adit (or possibly drift) as the category.

Any useful comments or suggestions?

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Totally agree Lee, I think 'works' would be a very good one to have. On the subject of Brickworks these are a long overdue addition to the db as they are in essence no different to an ironwork in relation to processing of a mined item. 🙂

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You talk about all works!! Should this relate to only works with their own adjacent mine or quarry?
With a title of industrial archaeologists and historians, so do you now want us to fill the site with works in general?
Clarification is required on the coverage of the site, "aditnow"

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I envisaged the 'works' being related to some part of mining/quarrying. Quite often a 'works' will serve a number of different mines.

Have you got any other types of works in mind, either mining or non-mining?

I'm thinking of glass and pottery - both are probably located near to the raw material of silica and clay. And although not as clearly linked to mining as ironworks or arsenic works, I still think they are relevant to a mining/industrial history site.

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Clarification is required on the coverage of the site, "aditnow"

Mining, quarrying and the larger mining landscape.

This includes mines and quarries.

It also covers the *major* items of transport infrastrcture (railways, canals etc.), ports, mills etc. *where they were directly relevant to a mine/quarry or mining/quarrying region*.

For example, the Ffestiniog railwaywas built to serve the slate quarring region of Blaenau Ffestioniog so it is included in the database. The North Wales coast railway line might have (and still does) carry the products of mining and quarrying activities but it's not a line built for the purpose or directly relevant to a mine/quarry so it is not included in the database.

The same would go for a factory, mill or works. Nenthead mill has its own entry because it is appropriate. A cotton mill is not and would not included!

It does include, as one person once observed "a newsagent where a miner once bought some baccy, or a knocking shop he visited on a trip to the seaside".

The original poster used the term "works" in relation to works that specificly and directly relate the mining and quarrying landscape.

Simples!

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OOOOOPS sorry I wasn't very clear when I posted... I meant where directly related to a mining or quarry feature as per Simons post... apologies for confusing stuff. ::)

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As for adits and soughs, generally speaking, each one was named as the adit for a particular mine ie Nangiles adit.
Exceptions to this rule are the larger undertakings such as The Great County Adit which were ventures in their own right.
So I think a photo of xxx sough/adit should be included in the xxx photo archive, and stand-alone drainage adits/soughs have their own entry.
Any thoughts peeps?

Edit;- As a side thought, and slightly off top topic, when adding a mine to the DB, the list of minerals could do with extending to include Diamonds and other gems.
I have some pictures of the Premiere Diamond mine I took in 1980. Inserting such a famous mine with such a prestigious produce under 'Other Rock' just doesn't seem to Cut it... 😞

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Thanks for the clarification on that.
I am building up lectures on the local coal mining. In an area of 9 x 3 mile I have aprox 1200 coal mines (Mansfield records) hundreds of stone quarries, with 2 donkey stone mines, one Elland flag mine and other things like clay quarries, ganister and iron stone mines. That is without going above ground.
I hope in the near future to start inputting onto your data base.

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As for adits and soughs, generally speaking, each one was named as the adit for a particular mine ie Nangiles adit.
Exceptions to this rule are the larger undertakings such as The Great County Adit which were ventures in their own right.
So I think a photo of xxx sough/adit should be included in the xxx photo archive, and stand-alone drainage adits/soughs have their own entry.
Any thoughts peeps?

I'd tend - where there are various features associated with a single mine - to set them up as individual albums under that one mine?

http://www.aditnow.co.uk/mines/Cwmorthin-Slate-Mine/  - albeit it may not be the best of examples as it was very obviously a single entity.

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As for adits and soughs, generally speaking, each one was named as the adit for a particular mine ie Nangiles adit.
Exceptions to this rule are the larger undertakings such as The Great County Adit which were ventures in their own right.
So I think a photo of xxx sough/adit should be included in the xxx photo archive, and stand-alone drainage adits/soughs have their own entry.
Any thoughts peeps?

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Agreed, I was thinking of the more widespread drainage soughs which cover a number of mines. Another thing which is useful for single mines with drainage soughs is if the adit mouth is a long way from the mine site then a separate grid ref would be useful to be added in the photo or mine sticky note.

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Agreed, I was thinking of the more widespread drainage soughs which cover a number of mines. Another thing which is useful for single mines with drainage soughs is if the adit mouth is a long way from the mine site then a separate grid ref would be useful to be added in the photo or mine sticky note.

http://www.aditnow.co.uk/mines/Parc-Lead-Mine/ 

A drainage adit that covers several mines is almost certainly a feature in its own right.

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Have just done some edits to Cromford Canal entry on the database, and I came to change it from a museum type to a canal type, but there is no canal type for an entry.

I'm not sure how many canals there will be which need to be added to the list on here.

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Still no sign of diamonds or gemstones in the produce list :angel:

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