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Marra
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Newbie Topic Starter

9 years ago

I was given this bit of kit (Australian) and would like to know if any-one has any experience with it. At cavediggers site they have some information but does not answer if I can remove the extra braking system at the top, to use it as a single operated device and is it any good.

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sinker
50.2% (Neutral)
Newbie

9 years ago

Looks like it could lead to no end of trouble!

Similar situation to the Anthron from what I hear....people who like them swear by them, people who don't like them just loathe them! The rest of us swear by Stops or Simples because they were the first thing we were ever given to use after an eight?

Yma O Hyd....

Captain Scarlet
50.2% (Neutral)
Newbie

9 years ago

Based on the colour, I would say its excellent!

STANDBY FOR ACTION!!!!...

Marra
50.2% (Neutral)
Newbie Topic Starter

9 years ago

the blue of Petzl gear matches the colour of my eyes

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royfellows
50.2% (Neutral)
Newbie

9 years ago

Red helmets are really good, but not sure about descenders.

My avatar is a poor likeness.

Tamarmole
50.2% (Neutral)
Newbie

9 years ago

I have a couple of mates who use them - they are superb, arguably the best bobbin descender around. They have the stop feature of the Petzl Stop without the jerky ride.

If you don't get on with it I would be happy to take it off your hands.

christwigg
50.2% (Neutral)
Newbie

9 years ago

"sinker" wrote:

The rest of us swear by Stops or Simples because they were the first thing we were ever given to use after an eight?

Wow over 60 minutes and no-one has yet commented that anyone who doesn't use a rack is some sort of sub-human. :lol:

Looks interesting, try it, if you like it us it.
That would be my advice.

simonrl
51% (Neutral)
Administration

9 years ago

Anybody who doesn't use a rack is some sort of sub-human :tongue:

my orders are to sit here and watch the world go by

rufenig
50.2% (Neutral)
Newbie

9 years ago

I still say
If you are first down an unknown pitch, or exploring then a Stop has it's benefits.
For ALL else a rack (after practice) is a much better solution.
:smartass:

owd git
50.2% (Neutral)
Newbie

9 years ago

#10

If that's all you have to hand, why not?
both will kill!!!!!!:guns:

gNick
50.2% (Neutral)
Newbie

9 years ago

#11

I find descending with a screwdriver to be much less prone to accidental injury than using a chisel.

Don't look so embarrassed, it's a family trait...

AR
50.2% (Neutral)
Newbie

9 years ago

#12

"The Fresh Prince of Portreath" wrote:

Use a rack. You wouldn't try and use a screwdriver instead of a chisel, would you?

Depends on what you're doing; if you want to try and assemble flat-pack Ikea furniture using a chisel instead of a screwdriver could you video it and post it to Youtube for our entertainment?:devil:

Follow the horses, Johnny my laddie, follow the horses canny lad-oh!

pwhole
50.2% (Neutral)
Newbie

9 years ago

#13

If that's what I think it is, they are very highly rated in Alpine Caving Techniques, and quite expensive, as I remember.

legendrider
50.2% (Neutral)
Newbie

9 years ago

#14

don't forget that gravity works the other way round in Oz! :o

MARK

festina lente[i]

pwhole
50.2% (Neutral)
Newbie

9 years ago

#15

I think it's upside-down to a Stop, in that the rope clamping is performed at the top bobbin as the rope exits, rather than the bottom bobbin. Also as its handle is much longer and better-shaped, it's way less painful to use.

Although I use a Stop, I hate its operation - a better-designed handle would be a help (why can't they do that?), but also would remove the danger of your fingers opening the catch plate as you squeeze the handle. Definitely a device in need of a redesign, IMO. I do appreciate the locking function, but try it on 9mm, and it doesn't work so well.

I dropped a massive shaft recently on brand-new 11mm Spanset bagged up beneath me, and I may as well have been on a rack, as there was no 'stop' at all. Mind you, it was one of the smoothest descents I've ever had.

royfellows
50.2% (Neutral)
Newbie

9 years ago

#16

"The Fresh Prince of Portreath" wrote:
The thing is with a stop, you're meant to squeeze the handle AND THEN use it like a bobbin. Not like an ID where the handle position equals speed. It's a mistake people often make and why they get a sore hand.

Absolutely spot on!
:thumbsup:

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Captain Scarlet
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Newbie

9 years ago

#17

Marra, stick to what you know. Remember what happened when you experimented with two Petzl Stops!

STANDBY FOR ACTION!!!!...

Marra
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Newbie Topic Starter

9 years ago

#18

I tried an Anthron a few years ago but I failed to descend due my meagre weight. Returned to supplier (ebay)

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Tamarmole
50.2% (Neutral)
Newbie

9 years ago

#19

"Marra" wrote:
I tried an Anthron a few years ago but I failed to descend due my meagre weight. Returned to supplier (ebay)

Anthron descenders are absolutely diabolical, wouldn't touch one with a barge pole.

Monty Stubble
50.2% (Neutral)
Newbie

9 years ago

#20

Prefer an ID myself - so controllable.

btw ... what's arack... is that alcoholic beverage from the Levant. What do you do? Wrap the rope round the bottle?

;)

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