stevem
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17 years ago
Spending yet another weekend in Cwm Penmachno and the kids want to go underground again.
Have arranged to get Rhiwbach key but there may be a problem with a delay in the FC renewing the access arrangements for this year (don't know full details as yet). (and it may not even have any affect on me)
As an alternative I was thinking maybe of doing Penarth. I know a few people have been thru...whats the terrain like?
I know some bits have been inspected but what is its condition, suitability for kids. (and big kids) ?? Any ideas?
Thanks in advance
Steve
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Captain Scarlet
17 years ago
Dont take the route up thru the farm, there are two really horrible aggressive dogs there :guns:

I believe there is a mush less steep route up to the site that avoids the farm.
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Vanoord
17 years ago
Hi Steve

Penarth is a nice little mine and has been described as a good choice for a Sunday afternoon out.

It is a walk-in mine, although the entrance is a bit of a scramble.

PM me if you want a bit more info about access.

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Vanoord
17 years ago
Hang on, I wrote it up a while back...

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Penarth mine seems quite a nice one for the relatively inexperienced and isn't that well-known despite having been explored for over 70 years. There are a few pics in the album and a couple copied below. It's quite close to Moel Fferna and has the advantage of being walk-in rather than requiring SRT.

New Year's Eve Eve's trip to Penarth was with SimonRL and featured several diversions to the sales in Betws-y-Coed and Vanoord's usual confusion about finding somewhere to park, which culminated in us trying to walk through a farmyard,
giving up, going back down the hill, driving to park in the village of Llidiart y Parc (right on the A5 where there's a bit of verge the locals use) and then walking up the lane at the back of the village and then along the footpath.

The footpath is a wee bit muddy and slippy and eventually brings you to the slate tips - it's then a case of heading up a bit until you meet the mill, traversing around the plateau until you find the pit and then finding the entrance - it's the left hand hole as the right-hand one has a 20' drop on the far side of it.

Penarth is described as a nice 2 hour trip for a Sunday afternoon and I'd mostly agree with that, although a little longer is handy if you want to muck around with a camera. The mine was worked on three levels and has an incline up to the top level, although the incline seems to have been built just before the mine closed in 1932 as there are no workings above it!

The mine is very similar to Moel Fferna, in that it was worked in veins of slate that are very close to the horizontal - think more like a stone mine than on of the 'traditional' Ffestiniog slate mines, with some odd pillars and butresses holding up the roof, including the "Fang": Penarth was worked on two veins, which are connected by a pair of tunnels on the middle level. One is now collapsed and blocked where it crosses a fault but the other is intact. Quite surprisingly for a mine closed over 70 years ago, there is a lot of metal left in the workings, including several winches and enough rail track to navigate around the mine.

The passing of time has meant that a lot of feet have trampled through Penarth and thus the tips and passageways are well trodden-down. That hasn't stopped the place from being covered
in grey mud, which can make photography a bit more challenging - but there are some nice exceptions, such as this patch of bright rust which has been leaking for generations:

All-in-all a nice little mine and it seems quite suitable for the relatively inexperienced. Possibly not worth a long trip for the hardened mine explorer, but I'd agree that it makes for a nice Sunday afternoon trip.



Righty
- park here: http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=52.980048&lon=-3.313441&z=19.2&r=0&src=msa 
- walk up this footpath: http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=52.977666&lon=-3.316029&z=18.1&r=0&src=msa 
- and walk in about here:
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=52.970998&lon=-3.329322&z=18.1&r=0&src=msa 
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JohnnearCfon
17 years ago
Isn't that route a public footpath though? A bit dodgy if they have dangerous dogs on the loose! Probably illegal even! :guns:
Vanoord
17 years ago
"JohnnearCfon" wrote:

Isn't that route a public footpath though? A bit dodgy if they have dangerous dogs on the loose! Probably illegal even! :guns:



Yes, you're probably right. Mind you, I didn't dare to get close enough to them to find out whether they were tied up or not.

That said, the alternative path up to the mine is an easier (if longer) walk and the advantage is that you park in the middle of the village where a car will be much safer.


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Captain Scarlet
17 years ago
"JohnnearCfon" wrote:

Isn't that route a public footpath though? A bit dodgy if they have dangerous dogs on the loose! Probably illegal even! :guns:



Yes, you are correct it is a public path. I do not know if the dogs are dangerous or not, but they are certainly very loud and very unpleasant. They are not tied up and when me & Wenders were there, they followed us all the way from the farm to the road, barking at our heels all the way. This would certainly be a consideration if young children are present as the original post seemed to suggest.

The mine itself is an easy walk about, probably the easiest one I have ever been in actually. Well worth a visit though 😉
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JohnnearCfon
17 years ago
Yes, I just compared the lengths of the 3 different routes on countrside access map and all 3 are betwwen 0.66 miles and 0.7 miles!
stevem
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17 years ago
Thanks for all the info. I have been looking to do this for such a long time.
Avoiding dogs, where is the car park and path for the less steep path?
Will prob end up in Rhiwbach but I'll definitely be back for this one.
Thanks again
Steve
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Vanoord
17 years ago
Have a look at the links at the end of my second post 😉
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stevem
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17 years ago
Got them...all noted.
Thanks for that
Steve
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Vanoord
17 years ago
Were you in Dinorwic today Steve?
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stevem
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17 years ago
Not me...
Was in Cwm Penmachno and Plas Y Brenin...
It could have been my doppleganger 😮
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Vanoord
17 years ago
Good thing I didn't say hello then!

I was a level the people who weren't you above and was sitting round watching swmbo and her friends not climbing and sitting round drinking tea instead: I think it's a standard sort of thing to do a lot more chatting then climbing ;)

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fjällvandring
11 years ago
Re-awakening an old thread here. My plans to visit Corris this weekend/early next week have been postponed, so Snowdonia it is, for one whole day. I heard that the entrance to Penarth had suffered some kind of collapse a few years back, so reading the description on here, is the 'way in' still the same?

Cheers! If I go I will literally only have an hour or two
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NewStuff
11 years ago
It is the way in, you can't miss it. Nothing worrying to pass under, but I wouldn't hold a candlelit supper under it.

PM me your email address, I have a KMZ with the route up plotted on it (from the top of the village). I suggest *not* going up the first of the tips, but skirting the bottom of them and going up the obvious path on the far side. It saves a steeper climb, and pretty much brings you out in the quarry where the entrance is located.

I've been up both ways, and prefer the latter.
Searching for the ever elusive Underground Titty Bar.

DDDWH CC
fjällvandring
11 years ago
Cheers mate. I will send it to you on facebook.
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