Hi all, thought it was time to pick your brains.

I'm currently exploring mines starting from North wheal Jane tin mine then exploring the mining networks throughout Cornwall. my plan is and hoping to pull it off is to locate and name old mine workings and shafts from the wheal Jane area then making my way down to twelve-heads region after my Tremayne visit at some point, My question is what is the exact location of north wheal Jane mine, i have found numerous maps telling me the location of this mine but trouble I'm getting there all telling me different locations. Around the north wheal Jane area i have come across and found numerous shafts in total 7 most capped and filled and few overgrown so no trace and nothing really to see but there is 2 in the location been capped but still very deep shafts

Taken from another site

This mine worked three ENE-trending lodes on the north slopes of the valley south of New-bridge.

That would accumulate for the capped shafts leading

Main Lode was worked from a series of shafts north of the road from Hugus to Newbridge, which are now largely obscured. that would account for the shafts that are leading to hugus along the road from new-bridge

Lead Lode, south of Main Lode, was worked from shafts south of the railway line, where dumps and engine house ruins are remaining in dense woodland.

That above would account for old wheal Jane and Tremayne mine works with shafts around those workings with more shafts just south of north wheal Jane south of the railway line

Ready Money Lode, north of Main Lode, was worked from a single shaft in the eastern part of the sett.

And im taking this shaft to be the only shaft that is capped but very deep in the eastern area of wheal Jane.

So my question is where about is north wheal Jane mine and what workings/ shafts would be from that mine

Any help on this mine or any information you may have that could or would help me be great

Map of area

http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=50.253948&lon=-5.101949&z=17.6&r=0&src=msa 


Locations i have found where north wheal Jane once stood but all different locations

Location 1 -
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=50.255251&lon=-5.097961&z=16.7&r=0&src=msa 

Location 2 -
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=50.254411&lon=-5.098601&z=16.7&r=0&src=msa 

http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=50.253948&lon=-5.101949&z=17.6&r=0&src=msa 

many thanks all

Search through the SW archives (forum) on here and mine-explorer. This has been discussed at great length.

Hi Drillbilly

Thanks for your reply sorry for late reply back was having a hunt about wheal busy and not long got back. Will have a hunt through the archives on forum on here and mine-explorer. Thought it might have been discussed just couldn't find it myself so thought id ask, guess it will teach me to look harder 🙂 Thanks again

Found this thread where a photo seemed to be IDed as North Wheal Jane.

http://www.aditnow.co.uk/community/viewtopic.aspx?t=6981&txtSearch=North+wheal+jane&lblnWhere=all&lblnMatch=exact 

Please feel free to ask any questions. Threads are often difficult to trawl through since they contain so much information or go off on tangents. There's no ban on asking a question that has already been asked 🙂

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If you are really interested in mining and are looking like taking it seriously.

Get a copy of Dines and the HJ maps from the links here:-

http://www.carbisbaycrew.co.uk/?page_id=156 

Dines sat in the mining records office and described the old plans in terms of how they were on the OS maps.

Some of the plans are crap and you have to sort of take everything with a pinch of salt. A massive engine shaft may have been obliterated and a small footway not on the map/plans may still be there.

It's a hugely interesting and rewarding hobby, but you have to tool up yourself up first.

For me, the research activity is as important as the practical exploration to confirm what is left. My opinion is that people who go caving without prior reading fail to appreciate the place fully.

Surely that depends on the individual's outlook DrillBilly; there is no 'correct' way to engage in an interest.

I just like noodling round old mines, they fascinate me and I like seeing what's left. Simplistic, but there it is. :)

John

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The link to Dines is bust by the way.

Needs changing to this :-

http://www.moorebooks.co.uk/The-Metalliferous-mining-region-of-South-West-England.html 

I tend to side with Drill Billy on this one; there's a huge amount of pleasure to be had in pouring over old plans, particularly in complex systems, then trying to make sense of them underground.

Many thanks for all for the positive reply's and your help and pointing me to the right location and I'm sure i will have plenty more questions to ask, the reason why I'm starting at north wheal Jane and asking so many questions about it as this is all new to me and really want to explore this is further detail will plenty of underground explores, one location of north wheal Jane is right on my door step and the first set of shafts are 5 Min's away from my house. i have done a map with all shafts and ruins in the area trouble is I'm not sure if to post it as a lot of info on there and found shafts that have not been filled and very open for access down with very high drops and wouldn't want it to get in the wrong hands

Thanks Drillbilly, for pointing me in the direction of HJ maps. Opened up a whole new site apart from north wheal Jane and the ones i was looking at and this site even closer to me with adit system and old workings Some very interesting stuff on these maps intend can see me spending hours observing these maps


Thanks again

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Many thanks again will have a look and go and explore tomorrow see what i can locate, loving looking at the old layouts and plans brings a whole new meaning to what your looking at once at the location great stuff cant wait to explore all the locations you have mentioned

Engine shaft on tin lode (continuation of Sperries Lode) aka Kerr's Shaft

http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=50.253848&lon=-5.105467&z=17.9&r=355&src=msa 

I have come across that shaft been capped but deep there is another 2 either side of that shaft which im yet to name etc 1 nearer the junction in the road been capped and filled one nearer the track unable to get a good view and location getting to the shaft without the right stuff too risky

Deep adit portal (down here somewhere).

http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=50.252338&lon=-5.088685&z=17.3&r=355&src=msa 

Will have a check of the area see what i can find well im out tomorrow

Engine Shaft on Lead Lode

http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=50.255628&lon=-5.092342&z=17.8&r=355&src=msa 

NB:- Nothing is shown on any OS map with the lead lode shafts. I'm assuming the patch of gorse in the next field is the site of bulls shaft. Looking at the plan, it would appear that there was working at the western end on tin lode first (as there are 2 shallow adits), then possibly onto the lead lode at the other end of the sett (may even have been separate ventures). The lead workings finishing and not featuring on the 1880 map, but the engine house on Kerr's Shaft being present. Suggesting the last working was on the tin lode around this shaft.

will take a look

I think the engine house is possibly the stamps and is abuot here:

http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=50.252464&lon=-5.104521&z=17.1&r=355&src=msa 

One of the old maps shows what looks like the site of dressing floors around "engine house (ruin)"....Bit of a funny place for a stamps engine... I doubt it was a pump or winder. Have to have a look at the site to figure that out.

If your ever in the area looking about feel free to give us a shout will have a explore with you im coming across on my travels so many shafts as you said that are not on any maps at all sort of now done my own map and located so many and just noting them as i go some very big shafts with no trace of them what so ever

I would also suggest you get and read the Hamilton Jenkin book specific to the area you are exploring, often lots more in them than he put on the maps.

Engine shaft on tin lode (continuation of Sperries Lode) aka Kerr's Shaft

http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=50.253848&lon=-5.105467&z=17.9&r=355&src=msa 

I have come across that shaft been capped but deep there is another 2 either side of that shaft which im yet to name etc 1 nearer the junction in the road been capped and filled one nearer the track unable to get a good view and location getting to the shaft without the right stuff too risky

Deep adit portal (down here somewhere).

http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=50.252338&lon=-5.088685&z=17.3&r=355&src=msa 

Will have a check of the area see what i can find well im out tomorrow

Engine Shaft on Lead Lode

http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=50.255628&lon=-5.092342&z=17.8&r=355&src=msa 

NB:- Nothing is shown on any OS map with the lead lode shafts. I'm assuming the patch of gorse in the next field is the site of bulls shaft. Looking at the plan, it would appear that there was working at the western end on tin lode first (as there are 2 shallow adits), then possibly onto the lead lode at the other end of the sett (may even have been separate ventures). The lead workings finishing and not featuring on the 1880 map, but the engine house on Kerr's Shaft being present. Suggesting the last working was on the tin lode around this shaft.

will take a look

I think the engine house is possibly the stamps and is abuot here:

http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=50.252464&lon=-5.104521&z=17.1&r=355&src=msa 

One of the old maps shows what looks like the site of dressing floors around "engine house (ruin)"....Bit of a funny place for a stamps engine... I doubt it was a pump or winder. Have to have a look at the site to figure that out.

If your ever in the area looking about feel free to give us a shout will have a explore with you im coming across on my travels so many shafts as you said that are not on any maps at all sort of now done my own map and located so many and just noting them as i go some very big shafts with no trace of them what so ever

The engine house is the pumping engine.

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Well, I'll be a son of a gun!

It doesn't look like enough of a hill. That has to be the tin lode pump, as the lead lode shafts aren't even on the 1880 map.

I'll have a look at Symons later.

As a rough guide, to the right of the engine house can be seen a row of poles. They are the telegraph poles of the GWR main line.
I would suggest you contact Roy Morton as he is the acknowledged expert on this area.
It has been many years since I have been here but even then it was very hard going, the whole of the ground where the dressing floors are situated is nothing more than a swamp!

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Hi spitfire

I would send Roy a message someone said and one point how confusing north wheal Jane is how right they was maps are so different in so many ways with some showing locations and others not currently looking at maps.co.uk, 88, OS, and few others the more you look the more shafts appear and even a few not on any map what so ever

Would also like to say thanks for all the reply's and help that's been giving top stuff 😉

Hi, tomh

Many thanks will have a look and grab a copy the more help the better 🙂

Thanks again

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Accuracy is important.

The abandonment plan looks a bit stretched and it's north is a bit out of whack. This should be taken as right. Engine Shaft on the lead lode is in the field with a cone over it. It's choked.

Many thanks mate, thanks for this will take a look and have another wonder not been out last couple days as weather been bad but hoping to get out today for a hour as the location is so close to me if not will have a look tomorrow at the locations see what i can track down

Big thanks again for all your help

One thing i got hj maps of 1888 and maps maps.co.uk as well as os maps is there any other maps out there you can point me in the right direction any maps old or new will be great

thanks