The central problem is that the tourists are going to be wandering up to grilles with cut bars on them.

This is a really bad thing and a feature of having grilles in remote places. Geevor Padlock makes sense.

Hi Stuey, by cut bars do you mean literaly cut ie: by the local wildlife?

Lozz.

No he means by mine explorers. And any mine explorer who cuts bars and does not put it back in a safe and secure state isn't the kind of people who we want to be mixing with.

If its secure you always put it back secure. End of

The central problem is that the tourists are going to be wandering up to grilles with cut bars on them.

This is a really bad thing and a feature of having grilles in remote places. Geevor Padlock makes sense.

Hi Stuey, by cut bars do you mean literaly cut ie: by the local wildlife?

Lozz.

If you put a grille on a tunnel of any sort, people will come along and try and get in there...general wildlife...

Every bunch of explorers has been in those tunnels and know they don't go....well, at the moment. I'd like to see them grilled with locks on for the best all-round solution.

Personally, I think the loose cliffs at Lushington are a much bigger hazard than any dodgy timbering or sketchy stoping. The cliffs above the adits are always calfing bits off.

The beach is more dangerous, surely it should be grilled off to stop people getting drowned by rip currents?

I've been surfing since I was about 11, all over the coast. Oddly enough, I notice the lack of red flags, even when the conditions are seriously hairy. All beaches are equal.....none get red flagged more than others and the lifeguards know best.

I've been out at Perranporth where I paddled for 1/2 hour against ridiculous sized surf, ended up jumping in the rip and got out in a lull, found myself in a bit of a predicament (how am I going to get in) in mountainous seas. Had the same thing happen at Trebarwith.....seen a couple of emmets sucked around the corner of Dennis Point in a whopper of a rip. Mawgan Porth is deadly in anything above chest high if you're not a seriously strong swimmer and that's a couple of many.

The customers must always be allowed in the drink. It is always safe to swim everywhere. They are right and I am wrong.

I actually can't remember the last time I saw a red flag. One thing is certain, when I was in at Perranporth, they didn't have a hope in hell of getting their boat out in those conditions, or one of their aussies on a floaty thing.

I suppose it depends a lot on the stereotyping and general dogmatic positions regarding risk assessments. Sea = Good, mine workings of any sort = bad. Cliffs also good.

I remember being at the top of Diggory's Island up from Bedruthan steps....I was semi-hypnotised by this topless goddess and there was an almighty cliff fall....she was missed by inches...nasty sharp slate as well. But at least it wasn't disused mine workings.....we'll also overlook the utterly mental cliff path.

Talking of which, Lushington Beach cliff path above the adits is basically dangerous for mountain goats. It's slippery and deadly. As someone else said, in the 150 or so years which have elapsed since the mines closed and the adits were left in this unacceptable and lethal condition, how many people have snuffed it in them?

Ans:- buggger all.

Perceived danger and ACTUAL danger are two completely different things, I know this is not mining related but is topical:

What do you think is more dangerous, a swimming pool or a gun?

http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2001/07/27/levittpoolsvsguns/