plodger
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16 years ago
Having become fascinated by Cornish Engines, Engine Houses and Mining I've collected a bit of a library. My question is - what is your favourite, most interesting, most essential book about mining? Are there some that we should all aim to own? I throw the question open.
Ian H.
Peter Burgess
16 years ago
Or if you were going away for 6 months and could only take one book with you, which would it be?
derrickman
16 years ago
one book which I found at a jumble sale many years ago - G E Sandstrom's "History of Tunnelling", very interesting read. Never seen another copy.
''the stopes soared beyond the range of our caplamps' - David Bick...... How times change .... oh, I don't know, I've still got a lamp like that.
hymac580c
16 years ago
I would have great dificulty chosing between 'Rhosydd slate mine' and 'Cwmorthin slate mine'.
Perhaps I could take one with me, and hide the other one in my shirt so that I could have both. 😉
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Mr.C
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16 years ago
"derrickman" wrote:

one book which I found at a jumble sale many years ago - G E Sandstrom's "History of Tunnelling", very interesting read. Never seen another copy.


Likewise P Beaver's "A history of Tunnels". Great book but never seen another copy of that either.
How about "Cornish Explosives" by Bryan Earl - just giving it another read now.
More local to me though would be Paul Deakins "Collieries in the North Staffordshire Coalfield". The photos in the book are a small part of Pauls archive. Sad that it's now a historic record of places that were such a prominent part of my areas culture & scene & my past. When I drive past some of them I can still see them - but they're now retail parks etc.
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stuey
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16 years ago
Dines. Tells you where the holes are, what they were called, how deep they are, what came out of them..... good bible. (for the explore)

My favourite book out of all of them is "The Great County Adit" by Buckley.

I'd like to see Buckley grind out a breakdown of the Gwennap mines. He writes with flair. That would probably be my favourite book. It would have to be a few hundred pages to really cut it properly.

Cornwall's greatest copper district and there is next to ****** all written about it. :thumbdown:



Tamarmole
16 years ago
One book, desert island, Hamilton Jenkin's Cornish Miner.
Bill L
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16 years ago
At the risk of being controversial, 'The Cornish Miner' was written a long time ago. There has been some later work done on different areas and on topics like women workers, but I always think that the social history of Cornish mining is a rather neglected area. Any thoughts?
carnkie
16 years ago
Not many enlghtening ones except that I agree with your comment about social history. There is a book, not that long published, by John Rule, Cornish Cases: Essays in Eighteenth and Nineteenth Social History.

Can't tell you what it's like as couldn't find a copy when I last looked. There are a number of papers in recent years by such as Mark Brayshaw, Gill. Burke, John Rule (presumably incorporated in the book) and others.

There are also the PPs of course but that's not really what we mean. On the other hand the 1853 Public Health Report for Redruth makes interesting reading. http://www.aditnow.co.uk/documents/Personal-Album-272/Public-Health.pdf 
The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.
Bill L
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16 years ago
John Rule's book is very interesting and available in the shop at Geevor.
carnkie
16 years ago
Thanks for that. Looks like my resolution regarding cutting down on book purchases may be slightly delayed.
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royfellows
16 years ago
Took me 2 seconds dead to answer this one, beats 'fastest finger first' Chris Tarrant.......

Grey Gold by Sam Murphy

No hesitation.
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rufenig
16 years ago
:smartass:
Th extend this beyond Cornwall
Serious must have books for a collector.
Sir John Hunt British Mining
D.C.Davies metlalliferous minerals and mining.
C LE Neve Forster A Text Book of Ore And Stone Mining
W.J.Lewis Lead Mining In Wales
Barry Trinder, Anything on Shropshire
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ditzy
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16 years ago
on mines?
the mine under the sea by jack penhale - real name raymond harry
his auto boigraphy about being a boy in the the levant mine and the collapse of the man rider
Peter Burgess
16 years ago
I honestly can't decide which book would be the most "essential".

If it were a choice of what single book to take away for 6 months, I might choose "Cheltenham Stone , The Whittington Quarries" by Arthur Price, because I would probably want to spend those 6 months writing a book of my own, and Arthur's book is an excellent format to aspire to. Mind you, there are plenty of other books that would have the same effect!
Roy Morton
16 years ago
I would have to put up Cornwall's Central Mines as my choice. Stacks of historical fact covering practical mining, company admininstration (or maladministration) machinery, and social comment; AND it's published as a two volume set. so you cant really have one without the other. 😉
Non mining, but still on the subject of the subterranean, it would have to be 'Ten Years Beneath The Earth' by Norbert Casteret.
I defy anyone to read that book and not be impressed.
Read in bed with a strong Cheddar cheese sandwich for spectacular nightmares... 😮
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ICLOK
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16 years ago
Cornwall's Central mines would be a great choice... it was my first mining book on Cornwall and has been read to death so I second that! :thumbsup:
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Mr.C
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16 years ago
Also on the subterranean, rather than just mining, any of Jim Eyres books. Very very funny but with a serious side.
Irreverant & with great cartoons - books I never tire of reading. (Even features Sougher!)
We inhabit an island made of coal, surrounded by a sea full of fish. How can we go wrong.......
sougher
16 years ago
Mr C - you didn't have to live with Jim and Rose like we did whilst on a six week caving trip (organised by my second ex husband and myself) in a l.w.b. diesel Safari Land Rover overland to Teheran way back in the summer of 1971! Actually Jim and me were both strong characters who agreed to disagree most of the time, but Jim was a hard character - being an ex sailor - and definately someone to have alongside in a tight situation, of which there were quite a few encountered on this expedition. There were seven adults and our two young sons of 3 and 4 cramped into the Land Rover which also towed a small trailer containing the gear that couldn't be carried on the roof rack of the Land Rover. We had problems with the gear box (it was a brand new Land Rover) which packed in just south west of Teheran, we limped into Teheran on a wing and a prayer (a bit like the bomber pilots returning home from bombing raids over Germany during WW2) and we were stranded in Teheran for five days at a camp site near the airport, after having taken the gear box out of the L/Rover and getting it repaired at the Land Rover factory in Teheran. It cost us £40 for the repairs (a lot of money in those days) and we had a heck of a job recuperating our money on our return home from Rover at Solihull - went in person in the finish and refused to leave until we got paid being as it was under warrenty. The most memorable memories of that trip was when having crossed the Turkey/Iran border near Tabriz (we were in bandit country) and were told that for safety we had to stay at a police station (gerdarmerie) every night in a compound, but the first night we couldn't find one. We camped on the edge of a village and men with rifles came out and fussed around us, Jim and the other cavers went into the village for a celebration, but Reg, Rose (Jim's first wife) the kids and myself set up camp, put the kids to bed in the L/Rover and Reg and me slept under the stars, suddenly we were woken by a very, very frightened Rose apparently Jim hadn't returned and she was in hysterics, with no more ado she leaped into our double sleeping bag in the middle between Reg and me, and thats where she stayed for the rest of the night, I was glad to see dawn break that morning. Up in the Elzburg mountains, north of Teheran (where tigers still roamed) we set up camp and Jim, Reg and the others plus 2 Iranian friends went caving. On exiting the cave Jim and another caver (Eric) were thirsty and badly dehydrated (I have a picture of Jim in a collapsed state of exhaustion outside the cave) and stupidly not having taken any water with them, they both drank out of the local river, fatal, the pair of them went down with diarrhaoe. Fortunately we carried a large first aid kit and I had packed several bottles of Dr. Collis Browne's Cholodene (as used by the British Army in the Kyber Pass, Afganistan and India in the 1860's - it's only recently looking it up on the internet I found that the two main ingredients were opium and cannabis! Shortly after our return from Iran the ingredients were changed) and I dosed them both with that, it worked fine. As we were leaving the camp site in the mountains we were visited by the Iranian secret police and our two Iranian friends (one a high ranking Army Officer and the other an Iranian oil company geologist) were arrested and taken to a police station on the edge of the Caspian sea, with no hesitation Jim, Reg and the rest of the fellows followed them to the police station and stayed there, refusing to leave until our friends were able to leave with them, that was quite a frightening situation. Planning an expedition in those days was like being on a boat, one had to be self sufficient and rely on no outside help. L/Rover half shafts on the Series 2 L/Rovers were very prone to breaking, so we always carried a few spares of them along with all other kinds of spares. On another trip to Turkey, returning home at the Bulgarian/Yugoslavia (as it then was) border, a fan blade broke and damaged the radiator (we had two L/Rovers on that trip), as luck would have it there was a scaffolding bar by the roadside, so we placed spare half shafts along the scaffolding bar, roped it all together and towed the broken L/Rover the whole length of Yugoslavia and into Austria where we were able to get it repaired.

Sorry to have gone off topic (once again), but mentioning Jim brought back a flood of memories as we all went on about four major expeditions together, both with Rose and Audrey, also spent many weekends with them up near Bull Pot Farm, me minding the kids whilst Jim and Reg went down Lancaster Hole and many other caving systems in that area. I suppose I should have written a book myself but never had time rearing a family and running various businesses throughout my life - at present my time is taken up researching my family tree - I begin to fear that I have a Cornish ancestor, I always thought that I was pure Derbyshire!

p.s. Caving and mining apart one of my favourite books is "Children of the New Forest" by Captain Marriot, it is beautifully written English prose.

geoff
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16 years ago
Deep Down by RM Ballantyne a work of fiction aimed at children! probably the most accurate book written on Cornish Mining 😉

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