stuey
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16 years ago
Hingston Down Consols, Bailey's Shaft is on the protected shaft register and I presume the mineral reserves have permission. I was out and about earlier and there is a notice on site about this being discontinued unless an application was re-made.

Are we about to have a massive prune of our mineral plans, in the style of Devon?????

I think that Hingston Down could benefit from those awful shaft cones being capped and the area having one of those "mining interpretation jobs" done on it, perhaps with a Stainless Steel Sundial, plugged shafts and a few picnic benches....perhaps a few Midas Homes.....

Sarcasm aside, I would say now isn't the time to be pruning our mineral plans. Tell me, are any of the other sites on the Cornwall list up for extinction?

I would bet most of them.....Fowey Consols, Redmoor, Etc, due to the inept yoghurt weavers the public sector seem to be infected by.

spitfire
16 years ago
It is our own fault that these things happen. Unless pressure is put on the Council and MPs by interested parties it will continue to happen
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Roy Morton
16 years ago
I have it on good authority that an interim prospecting license has been granted (last year, post stock market collapse) to an Australian mining company acting for a Chinese company.
Open cast mining was mentioned with colossal reserves making it an economicaly viable enterprise. A reinstatement and landscaping plan was also submitted. Nature reserve i think was mentioned.
Info from 2 independant sources.

We'll see! ::)
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ICLOK
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16 years ago
Are we talking Engine house and site gone forever here???

One of my favourites as I think the engine house is nice and the site just nicely off the beaten track...
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stuey
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16 years ago
I gather some stoping was cut by the quarry and then filled in. I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has any underground experience of this place (Bailey's Morris' Hitchens) as I have sat up the top contemplating dropping them for a while. One shaft has a lovely collar, but is pretty deep.

I think specific underground discussion should be left off this (public) thread....

Back to the quarrying, I think opencasting would be the way to go and sadly, would be the loss of a historic site....but then again, it's always been that way.

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Minegeo
16 years ago
I think this is what you are referring to:

Wolf acquires world class Hemerdon tungsten and tin deposit in the UK
Tuesday , 04 Dec 2007
Key points

Acquires 100% of Hemerdon Tungsten and Tin Project in the UK, one of the largest tungsten and tin deposits in the world.

Will re-commence trading on the ASX on December 5.

Mining scheduled to begin within three years.

Anticipated to mine 3000 tonnes of tungsten per year over 15-19 year period.

Mineable reserve estimate of ~ 40Mt at 0.183% tungsten trioxide, 0.029% tin.

Consideration will be A$1million, plus annual rental payment of A$145,000. Separately, a 2% net smelter royalty (NSR) will be payable.

Planning Permission to develop the mine valid until 2021.




Australian specialist minerals exploration and development company Wolf Minerals (ASX: WLF) (Wolf, the Company) is pleased to announce that is has completed the acquisition of the advanced Hemerdon Tungsten and Tin Project in the United Kingdom, one of the largest tungsten and tin deposits in the world.

Wolf has been in voluntary suspension from trading on the Australian Securities Exchange (ASX) since June 12 this year while it undertook negotiations to acquire the Hemerdon Project, and will now re-commence trading on the ASX on December 5.

The Project is located near Plymouth in the South West of England, and the acquisition moves Wolf closer to its goal of becoming a world class tungsten and tin producer.

Wolf Minerals will commence work at Hemerdon immediately, and preliminary assessment work is already underway. Actual mining work is scheduled to begin within three years.

It is anticipated that Wolf Minerals will mine 3000 tonnes of tungsten per year at the Hemerdon site over an approximate 15-19 year period.



For further information please contact:

Mr Humphrey Hale
Managing Director
Wolf Minerals
Ph: +61 8 6364 3776
E: [email protected]

Website: www.wolfminerals.com.au

ICLOK
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16 years ago
So in answer to my question if they quarry, will they destroy the stabalised engine house site right up to the road or destroy the whole lot inc road... what direction will quarry take?
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Minegeo
16 years ago
Sorry dont know exactly where the shaft you refer to is but mayvbe this link will help.

http://www.wolfminerals.com.au/images/pdf/056.wlf.development.02042008.pdf 
spitfire
16 years ago
Hemerdon and Hingston downs are two different places, the former is in Devon
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sougher
16 years ago
Not being intimate with Cornwall's mining area, I can only suggest from my own experience in the past in Derbyshire, that one visits the office of the Local Authority in whose area the consent for the planning application has been granted for this extraction, and ask to view the planning application and the planning permission granted. When applications for mineral extraction have been submitted, Local Authorities have to advertise such planning applications in local newspapers, and this is the time to visit the planning office, view the application and then send in an objection if one is against it. One has to have valid objections such as the demolition of an engine house (especially if it is a Listed Grade 1 and 2 building), the destruction of a footpath, destruction of flora and fauna etc., etc., one can't just object on the grounds that you don't want the extraction to take place because it's going to disturb your peace and quiet. Once planning consent has been approved it is too late.

I am not against mineral extraction, it is part of the life and economy of the area in which ever part of the UK it occurs, and is essential to providing work hopefully to keep the indigineous population in the area. Also having been a builder/developer myself after previously being a Local Govenment Officer for many years, I know only too well that without mining and quarrying there would be no materials for house, road building etc., all the things that modern civilisation in the UK take for granted without counting the cost of where it comes from.

It's complicated in Derbyshire, the County Council approve mineral applications (so perhaps an approach to Cornwall County Council Planning Department could also be made regarding this application), then part of Derbyshire is within the Peak Park Planning Authority who have jurisdiction over the area within the Peak Park. Not forgetting the smaller Local Authorities within the County lying outside the National Park boundaries. When viewing a planning application we used to have to visit Derbyshire County Council Minerals Section at Matlock, Derbyshire Dales District Council also at Matlock and the Peak District National Park Authority at Bakewell to gather all our facts together. It got complicated.

Trust this helps to locate the original planning application and consent.

EDIT:- Have had an afterthought, many Councils now show planning applications on their website. You could always search the appropriate Council's website to see if you could find it!

P.S. Good evening to you too Iclok.
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16 years ago
I thought i was cracking up ::) ... we appeared to jump to Hemerdon... so still no better off re my question on the engine house and site...

EDIT aye up sougher!
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stuey
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16 years ago
Yes indeed, Hemerdon is over in England.
spitfire
16 years ago
It used to be the role of the CMDA ( Cornish Mines Development Association) to take care of these matters but I'm not sure if they still exist
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Minegeo
16 years ago
Yes of course you are correct - stupid me.

I was really replying to Roy Morton's comment about the Australian company looking to start openpit mining. This is of course at Hemerdon Bal and NOT at Hingston
Downs.

:oops:
stuey
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16 years ago
I've been perusing the latest incarnation of "one cornwall" website..... The abstract of their plan suggests that sense will prevail.

The Devon Plan got very heavily trimmed the last time it was up in the air. Quite a few of the Tamar Valley prospects were trimmed.

It will be interesting to see what happens to the prices of minerals as things dry up. Money talks louder than AONB beardies.
jimc1390
16 years ago
"stuey" wrote:

Yes indeed, Hemerdon is over in England.



good man, people alway look at me funny way i say things like that
forever poking around brambles
ICLOK
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16 years ago
Does that make me a 'Foreigner' when I visit?... 😮
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Roy Morton
16 years ago
"Minegeo" wrote:

Yes of course you are correct - stupid me.

I was really replying to Roy Morton's comment about the Australian company looking to start openpit mining. This is of course at Hemerdon Bal and NOT at Hingston
Downs.

:oops:



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