dalesman
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16 years ago
Hi ICLOC
So the building I mentioned to you that was in Tanyard was in fact a pumping house , I can't remember an entrance to it must have been bricked up to keep inquisitive so and so's like me from harm. Which pits did it pump from? Poss. Forty Horse
Brittain, High Holborn and some of the smaller ones.
Do you no of any Adits that drained the mines in that area
ICLOK
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16 years ago
Basically the whole area has a dire water table and at the rear of the site in the valley bottom it basically floods hence if you go to my Butterley Company Railway you can see a huge culvert built by Butterley to drain surface water.

No 4 pumping pit was basically there to keep High Holborn, Britain, Forty Horse etc working dry. The site owner Darren Fretwell (owner of Golden Valley Caravan and Camping Park)was extremely open and gave me the full tour and told me what they found on site at the number 4 pumping pit. It appears water was lifted to surface by a Cornish type engine and then reservoired with some going to the engine boilers the vast majority going into a brick line culvert which crosses coach road (NNE direction) and I believe emptied into the reservoir that fed the cromford canal, now dry above the canal tunnel portal. The underground culvert is traceable and we had some covers off.and there is very little water now.

There were 13 shafts at Tanyard ranging in depth from a few metres to the deepest (no 4 pit pumping) at 154m deep & 3.6m dia.

Darren kindly gave me the BCA plan with a copy of shaft details which I will post in due course. There are no adits on site.
There is a small fenced opening awaiting filling of slight depth and one obvious concrete cap over a 2m dia coal/iron shaft.
Whilst the loss of so much Industrial Archaeology on the site is sad, it has been nicely adapted and is a great use of what was probably an aweful piece of land to reclaim. it has taken the guy 4 years.
The line of the earlier outram plateway/gangway to High Holborn thru the site and at the rear of Knowts hall is very traceable and there is another Ironstone/coal working next to it. There were also drilled stoneblocks in that area as well as a stone wall loading bank. I think this route was the original to the pits on that ridge.
Also at tanyard their was a tramway straight across the top of the spoil, narrow gauge and lightly laid it went from the pumping station to a dump point at the southern end of the site overlooking knowts Hall. It was in the way and was weighed in.
Locally I have only found 2 drainage adits but both are well away from Golden Valley on the other side of Ripley.
The only open shaft is in the field to rear of the symetrical cottage on left on the junction of coach road upto Ripley. It has a beehive brick top and hums of sulphur from the water.. totally flooded of course.




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photony
16 years ago
very interesting to read..
I explored this area as a child in the sixties, my great grandfather worked in pits in the locality..
Thrutch
16 years ago
My interest in the Cromford Canal and the Leawood Pump (as well as mine exploration) drew me to this thread. A brief enquiry to te Cromford Canal Society was answered with news of documents it has accessed which appear to be relevant to this, including dealings between the mine and canal owners regarding flooding. I have not read through all this yet but one letter describes a desent of the pump shaft. It could be that the same area is being researched by two individuals/organisations from different perspectives but potentially with information to share.
ICLOK
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16 years ago
Hi, I have been deperately trying to track down what surface remains exist for ages now and trying to pin them to what records I can .... The great thing is that the Cromford canal guys have been and continue to do a sterling job of researching.... so no conflict of interest plus I have been lucky enough to get top know a few members of the same.... my personal interests go well beyond the canal around Ripley... my ultimate objective being maps with every phase of transport related to mining...
The No 4 pit was certainly a major pumping station, locals remember clearly the quality of the engine house....
Any data you glean from your research would be much appreciated... 🙂
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Thrutch
16 years ago
The documents I have now read are from 1907 and relate to flooding of the pumping shaft from Butterley Park Reservoir; interesting and particularly the letter describing the descent of the shaft. Apparently there were disputes over flooding (of workings) between 1900 and 1920, with the mine owners blaming the canal owners after they (the miners) had undermined the reservoir and the canal. I suggest that you liase with the Friends of Cromford Canal Archivist regarding these and anything else that is relevant.
Sometimes it takes someone with interests in different areas to make connections (obvious statement I know!). The Leawood Pump story is only half complete without the Lead Mining connections and now we have another engine/pumping/mining link?

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