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I was recently fortunate enough to get into Clayton Mine at Ecton as part of a PDMHS trip. The Ecton Hill mines have been mostly off-limits for some years since the death of former owner Geoff Cox, but I'm glad to say that the trust who now own them are starting to open them up again.
Entrance is via the roadside adit, which has not one but two gates on it, and leads into a long adit level with water to about welly top level. There are some side passages, one of which has a boat made out of half oil drums left by a former custodian of the mines who didn't like getting his feet wet, another of which has a miner's privy still in situ, flushed by the mine outflow!

Eventually you get to the main engine chamber, with the big blue shaft (see the photo in Mines of the Peak District), which is wonderfully clear when you first get in but unfortunately quickly clouds up when you pass it. The big wall at the back of the chamber is a curiosity, it has in the past been described as a chimney base for the steam engines which were sited here during the mine's C19th operations, but close inspection does not bear this out. John Barnatt and Terry Worthington (who were leading) are of the opinion that the wall may actually be part of the engine mounting, like a cornish engine house. There are at least two other engine beds, signs of sealing-off in some of the side passages which have been used as smokeways for the engines, but it isn't clear where the boilers where yet - much more investigation will be needed.

Behind the main chamber is a small area of intact pipe vein, still showing chalcopyrite, malachite, sphalerite, fluorite and barytes, as well as patches of what is quite likely to be aurichalcite. Also beyond the engine chamber is the way into bag level, which runs almost the length of Ecton hill, on a long drivage, passing the linkage to Chadwick mine,going under Bag mine but not linking, and ultimately getting to a now-choked raise to Waterbank mine. The last section of this was driven with air drills andnitroglycerine or dynamite in the 1880s, just before the mine closed. It's also a bloody annoying level to walk down, being about 5 1/2 foot high all the way so you have to stoop for ages - the rails are still in situ so I think I need to bring a cart in next time I'm in there!

The last bit of the mine we looked at was the way up into the upper pipe workings. Passing another bit of intact Chalcopyrite/Fluorite mineralisation, you climb up into the pipe workings - unfortunately, as they were used as a chimeny for the engines, everything is thick with soot and the stal is all black too! You can climb so far up unaided, but around the base of the point where it starts to go really vertical, there are a few serious drops so we didn't go right to the base of the shaft you can see at surface. I'm told that someone did SRT it some years back, but you pass a lot of seriously unstable deads and so no-one has been daft enough to do this since.

An excellent trip all in all, and with any luck the Ecton mines will become more easily accessible in the next few years.
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17 years ago
Nice to hear about possible better access.
Didn't they use to do visits into Salt's Level?
Would be good if it was opened again.

I managed to go into Salt's Level twice about 10+years ago on some field visit/surveying.
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PDMHS are hoping to arrange further visits into both deep Ecton and Clayton next year, although these will be restricted to society members if they go ahead and the last couple of trips were booked up pretty quickly! At the moment I don't know whether the Ecton trust will be doing their own trips in, although they're renovating the Folly so that it can be used as a field centre again so it is a possibility.
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🔗Clayton-adit-Copper-Mine-User-Album-Image-001[linkphoto]Clayton-adit-Copper-Mine-User-Album-Image-001[/linkphoto][/link]

Is this the same view as what is on the back cover of the Ecton / Manifold valley Copper Mines book? where the water is greeny bluey?
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royfellows
17 years ago
Sorry, I do not know as I do not have that book.
I took the picture on an Olympus OM1N using Kodak ASA 400 colour print film, 28 mm wide angle lens. I can remember that the key to getting the shot was getting down real low. There is no way a reasonable shot could be taken from the other side of the overhang, if memory serves me correct. Richard Bird took a similar picture even earlier, this may be the one you mention.
I set it up on the self timer to get myself into the shot, with a flash connected to the cameras socket by a lead, the other flash I am visibly holding in my hand close to my chest.
If you take the picture to full size, the quality diminishes considerably, possibly to do with the quality of ASA 400 film in those days, or the fact that its a scanned image.
I would really like to do the shot again with my Fujifilm S9500.
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17 years ago
Further to my last I have just found Richards Birds photograph, its in "Peakland Lead Mines and Miners" by Harry Parker and Lynn Willies. Moorland 1979.
The shot is similar to mine but I suspect there were no 28mm lenses when Dicky took his, so its from further back. Better picture than mine anyway, hardly surprising. Point of interest, Dicky was taking incredible photographs years ago, long before anyone would have dreamt of todays digital age.
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It is the same view as the shot on Robey and Porter's book on the Ecton and Manifold mines, although this one looks like it was taken after the waters in the shaft had muddied. I can only assume that in the one on the back of the book (taken by Paul Deakin, I think), the model and the backlighter had followed the rails through to Bag level and then come through the engine passage to have kept the water in the shaft clear!
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