simonrl
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10 years ago
"Tamarmole" wrote:

Also the Chinese scurrion clone:

http://www.naturalshine.eu/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=147:caveman_3000&Itemid=117 



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10 years ago
I've tried several, but always go back to the trusty Stenlight. It's small, tough, and plenty bright enough for me.
I also carry a Fenix TK11 for light painting photos / backup.
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crickleymal
10 years ago
I use the headlight I made myself. 3W cree in an Oldham headset with 5 X 4Ah NiMH batteries from a anaesthetic monitor. The only bits I paid for were the LED, the driver board and the lens. Last forever on low, 12 hours + on medium and well over 4 hours on high.

The only slight snag is I made the battery boxes out of old biscuit tins so they have a certain floral design to them. :lol:
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Tamarmole
10 years ago
It seems that everyone is using LEDs these days - is anyone using a traditional Oldham these days or even carbide?
crickleymal
10 years ago
To be honest I can't see why you would want to nowadays. Ok maybe carbide if you were on an expedition somewhere and had no power.
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Ian A
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10 years ago
I'm with Maggot - Still using the Sten, still awesome ;)

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simonrl
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10 years ago
Still on the Sten myself as well. Albeit a 1,000 lumen pre-production version of the uprated lamp that Sten never got their collective arses into gear to manufacture.
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10 years ago
One of Mr Mike's Retro XPs attached to an Oldham L16 battery. Mainly because it gives a ludicrous amount of time on full beam, and something like 90 hours even on the 70 lumen low setting.

Feel a bit more comfortable now with the Raptor Pro as a backup.

A plea to (all) lamp makers would be the inclusion of a moonlight (< 5 lumens) mode as standard. Nearly all good current hand torches have a moonlight mode, and the reason is because it is very useful, and that it is what torch users want.

A sign of the times that lighting isn't all about how much comes out of the front.

royfellows
10 years ago
Interesting thing about the Sten is that its the only lamp bar mine to have reasonably priced, no fuss, easy swap battery packs in the form of sealed, waterproof and impact resistant units.
All the other high end lamps have something you have to open up to change batteries, which can be a bit awkward underground.
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Dark Prince
10 years ago
Running a Mr Mike XP insert on a Oldham Li ion, and a Mk 1 Oldham LED head on another Li Ion.

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10 years ago
Likewise!, happy with Mr. Mike, running on NiCads at the moment, but I have plans::)

Edit;-- That should read Ni-MH's:oops:
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10 years ago
Fellows EcoStar. Squirt of WD40 on the battery connectors and its bomb-proof. :thumbup:
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Ian A
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10 years ago
"SimonRL" wrote:

Still on the Sten myself as well. Albeit a 1,000 lumen pre-production version of the uprated lamp that Sten never got their collective arses into gear to manufacture.




Fookin Hell :o

... I have the mark 2 which I think is 240 lumens?

1000 ?!?!?!??

Fookeroonies !
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Willy Eckerslyke
10 years ago
Being a cheapskate, I currently use a Nitecore HC50 which I bought as a backup then liked it enough to use as my main lamp. It's very well put together, waterproof to IPX-8 and bright enough -claimed max 565 lumens is probably genuine, I keep a brighter hand torch on a lanyard anyway.

While it's a bit embarrasing to admit that I'm relying on a lamp that cost less than 40 quid, I really struggle to find enough wrong with it to justify spending 4 times as much on a 'proper' caplamp.
My only gripes are the balance (18650 battery is incorporated in the same unit so all the weight's at the front); and the need to cycle upwards through the 5 brightness settings if you want to turn it down.
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10 years ago
"Willy Eckerslyke" wrote:

Being a cheapskate, I currently use a Nitecore HC50 which I bought as a backup then liked it enough to use as my main lamp. It's very well put together, waterproof to IPX-8 and bright enough -claimed max 565 lumens is probably genuine, I keep a brighter hand torch on a lanyard anyway.

While it's a bit embarrasing to admit that I'm relying on a lamp that cost less than 40 quid, I really struggle to find enough wrong with it to justify spending 4 times as much on a 'proper' caplamp.
My only gripes are the balance (18650 battery is incorporated in the same unit so all the weight's at the front); and the need to cycle upwards through the 5 brightness settings if you want to turn it down.



Why is that embarassing? My head torch was 11quid...

Its still brighter than 99% of head torchescosting £100+... Battery life is astounding and even on low brightness is 500+ lumens
royfellows
10 years ago
I have been giving thought to what lamp would I purchase if I were not producing lamps myself. I suppose that this could be the recommendation of all recommendations, so I have given it a lot of thought.

My thinking is to keep to suppliers who have been around for a while and are noted for good after service, and preferably UK based. By this I mean retailer rather than manufacturer which is irrelevant.

So I ran a process of elimination on everything available.

Lighting for a start can be roughly divided into three categories, Mining Lamps (intended for use in working mines), headtorches, and lamps produced for the intended purpose of recreational underground exploration.

The first category of lamp is generally producing a very narrow intense beam, I personally dislike this as it’s like a ‘stab in the dark’ to me. Also belt mounted batteries I now think belong in the past. Many have a cable that is actually heavier than the battery!
Remember as well that with the more expensive you are paying in part for coal mine safety certification which is irrelevant to recreational use.

The cheap Chinese ones are indeed very good value as has been commented. I would avoid any that have a rubber covered switch as this part will fail, go for one with an Oldham type switch, these are bombproof. Also beware of poor waterproof integrity on some, generally easily fixed though by silicone sealing the cable gland.

Of the second category, I am seeing more and more of these in use, and think that this type of lamp will probably account for an increasing proportion of underground lighting. Beware as these can be very cheap and nasty, I would advise paying more for say a Fenix.

The third category is from where I would choose without hesitation. By a process of elimination I narrow it down to Sten, Scurrion or Rude Nora. El Spelio looks attractive as does the new Greek lamp but unsure about after service as there is not a UK agent that I know of. Pulsar is another but I wont have a flashy mode at any price and again, no UK agent that I know of.

After even more deliberation I think my money would go to Mr Bif for a Rude Nora. At £395 it’s not overpriced and one knows that one is getting something with high build quality that will last; buying cheaper can be false economy.

Of course there are the conversions as well. The only one I have experience with is Mikes Retro which I thoroughly endorse having owned one myself way back.

I just hope that all this is helpful to someone.

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crickleymal
10 years ago
What I did for Mrs. Crickleymal was to take a head torch being sold by Aldi, put the guts and lens inside an Oldham headset using the Oldham switch instead of the horrible clicky switch but retaining the AAA battery box. Very light on the head and now very robust.
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royfellows
10 years ago
Sounds good.

When I was up at Nenthead I met a chap in Rampgill who had bought a Chinese bike lamp off ebay for £16.95 and removed the handlebar bracket to be replaced by his own home made mounting bracket which was simply a piece of bent metal strip

It was very small, light, and powerful and even had a battery level indicator. He expected it to pack up at some time but said for the money he would just throw it away and buy another.
Trouble is with these things, when they do decide to pack up its usually in the middle of an SRT pitch, sods law.
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10 years ago
"royfellows" wrote:

Trouble is with these things, when they do decide to pack up its usually in the middle of an SRT pitch, sods law.


Horses for courses I suppose. If you're just going to the Ballroom or Moel Fferna or somewhere then that's probably fine if you've got a back up. At a rebelay or up to the eyes in ochre on the far side of the back of beyond then you would hope for something you know is reliable! 🙂

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