Video Explore : A Stunningly Beautiful Mine With Bad Air!

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UK Abandoned Mine Explores
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In this video, we do a real time explore of a lead mine
from the 1800s, which is of one of the most
stunningly beautifull mines I've had the pleasure to be in,
with huge,unique stopes, but a reported issue with
low oxygen so a meter is carried. Strange things happen!

This video is raw footage, no music and minimal
commentary so you can absorb into the beauty of
this place.

Hope you enjoy but please don't ask the location as refusal often offends!

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risy76115
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5 years ago

Really do you need to be posting discription like this it's only going to bring attention of the kind the mining exploring don't need

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Peter Burgess
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5 years ago

Seasoned careful mine explorer: "Hmmm. I know what he means and understand. I know places like that."
Casual bystander: "How can people can be allowed into dangerous places like this putting rescuers at risk. How irresponsible."

And both will see the same video.

Remember who the unintended audience could be.

royfellows
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5 years ago

Thinking on this, it would have done no harm to leave the "bad air" bit out of it and just say "Beautiful Mine in a Secret Location".

I know where it is, you turned back at my warning on the wall in the main drift. I seem to remember putting it in a few places, so no missing it. I can see that you try to do things in a responsible manner.

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Down and beyond
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5 years ago

I only have watched parts of this , if your describing this mine in your title as bad air gases rotten vegetation why have you shown yourselves going into it without a 4x ? I didn’t hear one beeping at all or any gas levels being checked ? Normally you would do your bump test calibration before entering as it’s the only way for 100% accuracy , very glad you made it out ok but in the present time I would not be going in without the correct equipment.

Bad air changes dramatically I went in a local mine and on the first visit stayed at a steady 19.3 o2 we returned the next day nice clear day lovely high pressure dropped inside the o2 within 2 meters of entering plummeted to 14.1 lowest reading I have personally been at was a horrible feeling And immediately escaped so be warned if your entering places known for this it’s a completely different kind of explore

From the land of the pillar and stall

ttxela
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5 years ago

"royfellows" wrote:
Thinking on this, it would have done no harm to leave the "bad air" bit out of it and just say "Beautiful Mine in a Secret Location".

Yes, I think on balance I'd have left the 'bad air' bit out of the description. A piece within the body of the video with a sensible discussion on the risks of bad air and precautions that could be taken would be OK though I would have thought.

UK Abandoned Mine Explores
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Thanks Roy, yes, we do try to use the videos to educate on the dangers of abandoned mines. I've had a few people contact me to say they are interested in mines but after seeing my videos, wondered if I'd take them down as they've been put off going down themselves. Also had landowners who've found suspected mines and after seeing my videos, and contacted us to go and inspect them.

I thought with this video, I'd mention in the title about the bad air, so people would watch and see us actually using a 4 gas metre in the mine, how it's monitored and how quickly things can change.

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UK Abandoned Mine Explores
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5 years ago

Hi,

Yes, in the video, we do use a 4 x gas detector. You see us setting up the instrument in the horse level whilst the air is still good, you see our discussion on doing that. Later on, you see how we monitor and use it and towards the end, it shows how quickly things can change for the worse, emphasising the importance of correct kit.

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UK Abandoned Mine Explores
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We do have another video in an ironstone mine which shows the use of an o2 metre and it shows how it drops from 21 to 16 rapidly within a matter of ten feet and then starts to continue plummeting as we make our way out.

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UK Abandoned Mine Explores
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Hi,

As I responded to Roy, I put that in the title, as in the video, it shows the set up and use of a 4 gas monitor, how we use and monitor it, and the importance of having it when the environment suddenly changes rapidly. I like to use my videos, not just to show the location, but to teach about the dangers, and this, I felt, was a good example for such. It has had an effect on prior videos like this, with people contacting me as they had wanted to go mine exploring, but after watching my videos, thought it would be a bad idea to do so without an experienced person so ask if I would take them down.

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Down and beyond
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I see I apologise didn’t see that part thanks for letting me no mate I skipped the beginning and didn’t here it beeping or see you checking it on the part I watched which lead to my assumption

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UK Abandoned Mine Explores
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That's ok, appreciate.

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royfellows
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5 years ago

#13

Its a double edged weapon in that you have a duty to alert people to the dangers, but obviously have to mention the dangers. This can then be read in two ways, indeed as was mentioned by Peter.

Exploration videos are here, and will not be going away, at least UK -AME sets proper example re equipment etc.

We have our work cut out dealing with the likes of EWF

I have bad air in the notorious right hand branch off Taylors Level at Cwmystwyth, and we have warnings up there. This seems best solution. A proper printed notice in the "secret mine" (its nowhere near Wales) would probably be a good idea, although its not a much visited location.

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UK Abandoned Mine Explores
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Hi Roy,

Yes, there is another channel around atm I'm dealing with, these guys are exploring coal mines in nothing more than trainers and tracksuits. After a lot of comments, they've sourced some 4 gas meters but their knowledge of the environment around them is horrendous, had to explain how weather systems effect gas in mines just yesterday. They were giving out locations, poking at loose ceiling above them, playing with electrical devices and smoking! They have gotten far better but we still expect something to happen to them very soon, I try to leave as much advice as I can without being critical as that tends to get childish responces.

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UK Abandoned Mine Explores
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#15

As for EWF, not watched one of their videos before but just had a look. Yes, see what you mean, completely irresponsible and oblivious. Even when we take people down for a look, we make sure they are kitted up fully, one person a while ago initially refused to wear a helmet, so I said to them, that if they didn't wear it, we would not be taking them down.

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ttxela
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5 years ago

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Ah, I too skipped through the video as I am at work and missed the part where the gas monitor was explained. Apologies

UK Abandoned Mine Explores
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Thanks, yes, easily missed those short sections.

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derrick man
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I’m afraid that my view if all this sort of thing was permanently affected by an incident in the 1970s, in which two “vacation casuals” at Wheal Jane were asphyxiated within minutes of passing behind a ventilation brattice, looking for samples. One of them was well known to me, a fellow CSM student.

In the 1990s I was working on the London Water Ring Main Project, and a double fatality occurred involving poor confined space procedures, again very quickly. I wasn’t on that section, but these things are rapidly disseminated and reviewed within the industry.

Nothing would induce me to go into working where a gas monitor was required. If you don’t have an appropriate self-rescuer and procedure, the value of the monitor is greatly compromised; this is particularly true in old workings where disturbing gas pockets in deposits in watercourse beds is possible.

UK Abandoned Mine Explores
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#19

Yes, I can see how that would deter you from doing such things. Even worse is a Russian channel where they actually go into low oxygen areas with breathing equipment. Should something happen to them, chances of survival, never mind rescue are minimal.

On our trips, we research from prior explorers points to note and where we should be cautious, although we are aware that conditions change within mines. If available, I'll look at plans to look for possible trouble spots, for example, last week, found an entrance to a mine that had been long lost. Before going down, I found documents on it, although there were no notes on low oxygen, reading about it's layout, I had a good idea of where trouble would lye, and yes, as we got to that area, the predicted drop in o2 occurred with us retreating.

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