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TwllMawr
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8 years ago

http://www.miningartifacts.org/index.html

Can't recall visiting the site before. Very interesting all round particularly the photos around different states and countries.

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Jimbo
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8 years ago

"TwllMawr" wrote:
http://www.miningartifacts.org/index.html

Can't recall visiting the site before. Very interesting all round particularly the photos around different states and countries.

The photos arn't bad at all, but the site in general seems to go against our UK NAMHO guidelines and promote the stripping of artefacts from from all historic mining sites just for the sheer hell of it, rather than leaving things undisturbed and in situ for others to interpret and appreciate in future! :thumbdown:

http://www.miningartifacts.org/OldMineExploration.html

"PDHMS, WMRG, DCC, Welsh Mines Society, Northern Mines Research Group, Nenthead Mines Society and General Forum Gobshite!"

John Lawson
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8 years ago

Thanks for putting up this site for us.
I for one did not realise that they were at least 80 different carbide, head lamp makes.
I think Jimbo, whilst he has a point, it does not seem to me that wholesale stripping of artefacts, is encouraged, by the site's owner.
It appears to me the site owner is probably an ex miner, who has bought items as he came across them and established his own collection, which he is now showing on line.
Once you get off the tourist areas in the states you can find junk shops selling all sorts of second hand items.
Bisbee has at least 6, and my guess is he has been buying these items from these places.

Dr J
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8 years ago

"John Lawson" wrote:
I think Jimbo, whilst he has a point, it does not seem to me that wholesale stripping of artefacts, is encouraged, by the site's owner.
It appears to me the site owner is probably an ex miner, who has bought items as he came across them and established his own collection, which he is now showing on line.

Except everything he describes personally searching for, minerals and relics, physically removing 'arms full' and has photographed after having done so, here:

http://www.miningartifacts.org/OldMineExploration.html

Even going as far as to outline what collectors will seek (and pay) particularly for... Makes it pretty clear his main interest in getting underground IMHO - being the 'fun and exciting' part of collecting. :thumbdown:

All stuff I'd much prefer to see still underground, in-situ, rather than in someone's glass cabinet 😞

Over-ground, underground, wombling free...

4737carlin
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8 years ago

"Jimbo" wrote:

The photos arn't bad, but the site in general seems to go against our UK NAMHO guidelines and promote the stripping of artefacts from from all historic mining sites just for the sheer hell of it, rather than leaving things undisturbed and in situ for others to interpret and appreciate in future! :thumbdown:

I hate it when people do that, things need to be seen in there original location, once removed they lack some kind of context.
A pair of old boots down a mine looks far better then being in a cabinet somewhere as a trophy.

John Lawson
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8 years ago

Having checked this mining site which shows how copper nuggets may be removed I cannot imagine any resulting alteration,of the mineralogy or geology of the passageways by these actions. Nowhere can I see any ancillary minerals being removed which are the interesting points to geologists.
On his main site you see pictures of items I know are preserved in Bisbee.
I think you are both trying to suggest that ideas which are prelevant here, are likely to be the norm across the Atlantic.
You are dealing with a throw away society there, even to the ghost mining camps that are abundant in the South West of the U.S.A.

TwllMawr
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8 years ago

Unintentionally I seemed to have opened a can of worms... Note, one I acquired without delving underground for. Well, that is if you discount the mining that took place to make the tin in the first place I suppose.

A consideration... While the NAMHO guidelines are an admiral policy we all hopefully adhere to here. I'm privileged (or mad) enough to go visiting relatively safe underground places for myself. I'd also like to experience the realities of historical coal mining. But given the hazards there I'm happy that places as the 'Big Pit' in South Wales, have brought at least some of that 'trinkets, grit and grime' up to the surface. My frail nan at 80yoa enjoyed it as well. I couldn't persuade her to SRT down a Snowdonia lead mine with me though. Oh well!