derrickman
16 years ago
this was mentioned in another topic, I remember this machine being walked cross-country and I remember it later, awaiting scrapping.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundew_ (dragline)



''the stopes soared beyond the range of our caplamps' - David Bick...... How times change .... oh, I don't know, I've still got a lamp like that.
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16 years ago
Brilliant... My friend worked on the engineering side of BSC Corby and whilst mainly involved on the internal loco fleet was also occasionally roped into repair of bits off this, great piece of kit which by all accounts caused many problems with people trespassing to see the thing close up...
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toadstone
16 years ago
I was in my mid-late units when I first saw the draglines at Corby. It was as Iclok mentions something of a tourist attraction. I used to visit 2 lots of relatives who had migrated from the NE to work at Stewart & Lloyds as indeed had many Scotsman hence the Annual Highland Games at Corby.

From memory we used to go out towards Weldon where the posher of the two relatives lived from where my Grandfather (who was a pit head blacksmith at Philidelphia, Co Durham), visiting his brother-in-law would take pictures of said dragline with his homemade plate camera. The journeys were always taken in some vehicle sporting wings, running boards and trafficators, which required regular thumps on the door pillar from my Grandfather to activate them. Being a blacksmith impact engineering was of course his forte and answer to everything! I was in the back naturally and remember looking out on the world through a white haze produced by the contents from Grandad's pipe, Uncle Jeff's Thick Black Twist. :lol:

I can't remember the vehicle make but it was either an Austin or Morris. As for the pictures, alas all Grandad's equipment and plates were snaffled by relatives after he passed on and who really did not appreciate their worth. I did attempt some years back to try and locate them, to no avail. So if anyone comes across plates or prints attributed to A. Purvis please let me know.

Peter.
derrickman
16 years ago
I mainly recall seeing them when I was working on a contract doing repairs to a railway viaduct which I believe was called Harpers Brook, round about 1981.

Foraky still had at that time, a sprayed-concrete operation who did work for the railway and occasionally odd jobs would appear from various sources and be done by personnel from the drilling and freezing sides, usually under 'mining' project numbers. The Doe Lea Colliery ventilation shaft was another such job.

the main thing I remember about the site was the 'Fort Apache' atmosphere; a totally uncontrollable level of theft and vandalism due to its proximity to Corby, with its abundance of unemployed steel workers who had come down from the Clyde some years before on the promise of council houses and work, and found themselves unemployed and effectively unable to move even if there WAS any work, which there wasn't; and being 'union' men, for sure they were steelmen and weren't going to do anything ELSE.

we eventually resorted to placing the whole site stores in two roll-along containers which were towed to a nearby farm every evening. You couldn't leave as much as a spanner on the scaffolding overnight, and after the ladders were stolen we changed the scaffolding so you could walk onto it from the railway bank 😢

I wouldn't care to try that today..... the viaduct itself is still there, but whether the line still runs, I have no idea. Its function at the time was to serve the remaining ironstone extraction, and the bridge had to be kept in service, at minimum cost, for a few years to see this out
''the stopes soared beyond the range of our caplamps' - David Bick...... How times change .... oh, I don't know, I've still got a lamp like that.
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16 years ago
These are the remains at the Rutland Railway Museum of this machine... The cab is from the LH side.

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Moorebooks
16 years ago

IA Recordings have produced a superb DVD on walking draglines

Mike

http://www.iarecordings.org/compilations/c48.html 
Vanoord
16 years ago
It may be a daft question, but how does one "walk" a two-footed dragline without it falling over?
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16 years ago
Basically, the dragline body (cab, machinery etc) is mounted on a turntable base which just sits on the ground.

In digging operations, the feet are clear of the ground and the dragline operates by digging, slewing and dumping from that fixed point.

To walk it, the machine is slewed to the direction of travel and the walking drive is engaged.

On the smaller machines the machine lifts on the eccentrics and drags one edge of the turntable base along. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZvquNAXRe4 

On the larger machines I think they may have two eccentrics and links either side and the whole machine lifts off the ground. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U8pFm06BTo&feature=related 

There are lots more clips of walking draglines on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=walking+dragline&search_type=&aq=f 

Dave
Moorebooks
16 years ago
watch the dvd and you will see - I am sure IClock can give you a better blow by blow account

But simply there is a stand under the dragline cabin that lifts it up and takes the weight off the side legs. The legs then lift off the ground, move forward and then lowered to the ground. The stand is then lifted and the machine moves forward as it is lowered onto the legs the proccess is then repeated.

We had a ride in Oddball at St Aidians nr Leeds when it was moved to its final place which I am pretty certain is shown on the DVD

Mike

Mike
Vanoord
16 years ago
Ah, so it's got two moving legs and what could be referred to as a 'backside' to sit on whilst it moves its leg forwards!

I rather wondered how it could balance on just the one leg ;)

Ta! :flowers:
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toadstone
16 years ago
Vanoord, not wishing to do IA out of a sale but this will explain everything. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZvquNAXRe4 

In modern parlance most definitely cool.

Peter.

Sorry davel you've already done this one!
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16 years ago
I found out a bit more detail re the SUNDEW story having visited the former Exton Park Ironstone workings in Rutland at the weekend.
The Exton Park mines closed in 1973 leaving Sundew idle. BSC took the decision to move Sundew to the Corby 'Shotley quarry' in 1974, a distance I am told of perhaps a distance of 18 miles...
The proposed walk was done not as a 'Stunt' as many suggested but because to dismantle Sundew and move her bit by bit and re-assemble would take 3 years whereas it could be walked to Corby in 3 months. This was quite a feat of planning I guess as by all accounts they crossed-

10 roads,
4 rivers,
1 main railway line,
74 hedge lines.

the journey started on 10th June and was completed by 5th August, Sundew carried the message on her rear of "EXCUSE ME, I'm walking to Corby... So obviously the PR guys had some part in this.

By all accounts the cost of dismantling was way more than paying all the various landowners for their trouble in accomodating Sundew.

The average speed calculated as 1 mile per 10 hours of actual movement 😮
Vast amounts of time were by all accounts taken waiting for access, bridge building etc etc



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chriscambo25
16 years ago
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Brilliant Picture :thumbsup: ... Do me favour and bang it in the Exton Park Archive Album... Ta Much, In fact I will add my Sundew description to it also.
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14 years ago
i have always been interested in drag ines as my father drove some small ones like ruston bucyrus 10 19 22 24 30 and 33 draglines i also have some books on the bigger ones the so called walking draglines including big muskie and sundew the one inthe picture the book i have is account of the great walk by the man who organised it his name is roy dean its a small book but with all the in fo in it the title is the great walk
grahami
14 years ago
When I lived at Four Lane Ends,Over Hulton, near Bolton, in Lancashire, as a small child, (early 1950's)there was a large opencast coal site by the side of the A6, between it and the Manchester-Wigan railway line via Atherton Central. I remember my Dad taking me to see the walking dragline that was there - but sadly although I remember the occasion, I can't remember anything about the machine at all! 😢

Oh dear - the price of age....

Grahami
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Tamarmole
14 years ago
"grahami" wrote:

When I lived at Four Lane Ends,Over Hulton, near Bolton, in Lancashire, as a small child, (early 1950's)there was a large opencast coal site by the side of the A6, between it and the Manchester-Wigan railway line via Atherton Central. I remember my Dad taking me to see the walking dragline that was there - but sadly although I remember the occasion, I can't remember anything about the machine at all! 😢

Oh dear - the price of age....

Grahami



This must be a Dad thing - I have very hazy memories of being taken to see a walking dragline by my Dad in the early 1970s - I think it was called "Big Geordie"

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