carnkie
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A Cog wheel train on Summit of Pike's Peak, Manitou & Pike's Peak Railway. Colorado 1901.
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What is a Cog wheel train?


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Vanoord
16 years ago
I was going to suggest that it's got a centre cog, like the Snowdon Mountain Railway, but it looks like one of the wheels itself is cogged (is that a word?) and the rail has the relevant projections?

EDIT: no no, ignore me, it seems to have a toothed third rail for the cog to gain traction against...

Wiki has a useful article here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rack_railway 

I wonder if such a system was ever used underground... ::)
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16 years ago
No gripper rail evident either... like the Snowdon Mountain Railway originally... until the fatal accident on the opening day 😮

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowdon_Mountain_Railway 
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carnkie
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16 years ago
I agree an interesting article. I suppose the Middleton Railway should be in the DB. 🙂
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16 years ago
Don't think Middleton railway was Rack and Pinion... am working on a piece for DB for this line which I believe was the oldest rly sanctioned by Parliament.
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16 years ago
I'll leave you to it then Ian. According to the Wiki article it was but I haven't a clue.
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16 years ago
You know what your right! ..... Mr Blenkinsops line.... I'd kinda started with the collieries and was gonna work it back to the line... I'd heard this and forgotten so apologies.
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16 years ago
"Vanoord" wrote:

I wonder if such a system was ever used underground.


I have a vague memory (well, all my memories are vague at my age) of seeing a rack-and-pinion man-riding car for underground use (colliery?) on display (at the Kensington Science Museum, London?) on a short length of inclined track.

Of course, taking things to extremes, you could say that the Alimak lift in South Crofty is a rack railway - but one that's vertical!

Dave
Ben Fisher
16 years ago
The Pike's Peak line (still open), to quote its own website, (www.cograilway.com) uses the Abt rack system - which is the same one that's used on Snowdon. This has a pair of milled rack rails in the centre of the track, out of step with each other, with which a pair of pinions on each driven or braked axle on the train engage. The pic Carnkie posted only seems to show a single rack, but this may well be because it's at a loop (only a single rack is used on the approach to pointwork).

The extra bits of angle iron either side of the rack rails on Snowdon aren't grippers as such (that's the Fell system), but serve as guides for extra bits hanging down from the train intended to prevent the pinion riding up and out of the rack, which was what caused the 1896 disaster. At the time, Dr Abt said he thought this was unnecessary, and laying the track properly was all that was needed. AFAIK no other Abt railway has ever felt the need to add these components.
Roy Morton
16 years ago
"carnkie" wrote:

A Cog wheel train on Summit of Pike's Peak, Manitou & Pike's Peak Railway. Colorado 1901.
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What is a Cog wheel train?



looks to me like he's had his 'ride pimped' :lol:
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12 years ago
For those railway buffs in the Blaenau Ffestiniog area next weekend ...

As part of the Ffestiniog Railway Vintage Weekend (titled "Steam 150: 1863 And All That") October 11th-13th there will be footplate rides available on the ex-Cilgwyn/ex-Penrhyn quarries Hunslet loco Lilla at Blaenau Ffestiniog railway station.

See
http://www.festrail.co.uk/content/publish/specialevents/Steam_150_1863_and_all_That.shtml 
and
http://www.ffestiniograilway.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=327&Itemid=122 

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12 years ago
"Roy Morton" wrote:



looks to me like he's had his 'ride pimped' :lol:



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TheBogieman
12 years ago
"davel" wrote:

For those railway buffs in the Blaenau Ffestiniog area next weekend ...

As part of the Ffestiniog Railway Vintage Weekend (titled "Steam 150: 1863 And All That") October 11th-13th there will be footplate rides available on the ex-Cilgwyn/ex-Penrhyn quarries Hunslet loco Lilla at Blaenau Ffestiniog railway station.

See
http://www.festrail.co.uk/content/publish/specialevents/Steam_150_1863_and_all_That.shtml 
and
http://www.ffestiniograilway.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=327&Itemid=122 

Dave



Dratt, you beat me to it Dave!

Just got the last bit of my 1863 style garb to wear on Saturday off E-Bay. There'll be lots going on including gravity trains of slate (possibly the longest run of waggons since before WW2), horsepower pulling waggons on a recreated demonstration line behind Porthmadog's maritime Museum (on the former Oakeley Wharf), line-ups of the original 1863/4/7 locos at Harbour Station and in the evening at the old Boston Lodge loco shed (for night time photography); even a boat race between Spooner's Boat on the railway vs. Porthmadog Rowing Club's vessel. etc, etc,etc.

Do come and say,'Hello!'

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