simonrl
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18 years ago
Hi

Does anybody have any feedback on the following product/mineral types in terms of whether they should be added to the database or not?

All are proper products rather than common names or regional names for a product/mineral already in the database, but I'm seeking feedback in case any are too specific or similar:

Fullers Earth
Talc
Sandstone
Silica Sand

And specific rock types (specifically in relation to Scottish quarries):


Tuff
Gneiss
Basalt
Diorite
Psammitic Schist
Psammite
Quartzite
Felsite
Andesite
Teschenite
Dolerite
Schist
Serpentinite
Phyllite

Are these too specific or given they are correct names and were mined/quarried, worthy of inclusion.

And how should sand and gravel pits best be classified?

TIA!
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sparty_lea
18 years ago
Its a difficult question, we've already started to put in individual rock types slate, limestone etc so it would seem to be logical to continue with that

...........but on the other hand the 'mineral type' field is a required one and somebody putting a quarry on the database might not know their shists from their phyllites.
I think we might need a catchall 'other rock' and if that's there then maybe the place for these less common rock types (if known) is in the description?


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simonrl
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18 years ago
Does anybody else have any input on this please? I don't want to add additional coding and mineral/product types that go against the majority opinion, so is it preferable to:

- have a really definitive mineral/product list even where there is only a handful of mines/quarries that mineral is specific to

- have a more general 'other stone' to encompass some or all of these

TIA
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LeeW
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18 years ago
Isn't Fullers Earth just a type of clay!
If you're gonna add Fuller's Earth then whatabout other clay such as China Clay and Fireclay?
Probably just leave all as clay mines??

What's the difference between silica sand and silica mines?

I agree that most people looking for certain stone quarries may not know exactly what stone was quarried.
What about just classing them as stone quarries/mines?? - Compared to limestone, slate and sandstone I assume they aren't that many of the others
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JohnnearCfon
18 years ago
Not forgetting ball clay of course.
simonrl
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18 years ago
I don't mind adding lots of minerals/products, but I'm not hugely knowledgable about minerals myself and don't want to make any mistakes.

I agree that adding separate minerals/products for similars (e.g. clay / china clay / fullers earth) is unnecessary, and I don't mind adding Other Stone for those mined/quarried at a very small number of locations. Where a mineral/product was extracted from a large number of locations (e.g. Limestone) I think it is worth having that as a separate product as we currently do.

Does that sound about the right balance?

So that original list would refine to:

Talc (possibly)
Sandstone (common enough to justify classifcation)
Other Rock (for the list Tuff to Phyllite)
Sand/Gravel (for sand/gravel pits)??

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sparty_lea
18 years ago


"JohnnearCfon" wrote:

Not forgetting ball clay of course.



or ordinary brick clay

Oops I dont think there's any significant difference between silica and silica sand, my fault for not looking at the list properly before asking Simon about it.
I seem to be missing a few small round balls of fused silica glass these days. 😞

Edit
Cross posted there.
That sounds sensible to me.
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simonrl
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18 years ago
So:

Sandstone
Other Rock

Is Talc worth including, or is that another Other Rock?

And how should we classify sand/gravel pits?
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sparty_lea
18 years ago
Talc is a mineral rather than a rock

Personally sand and gravel pits are more like clearing overburden than mining 😉 though I'm happy to list some if you want them.
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simonrl
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18 years ago
We're getting closer now :)

Talc
Sandstone
Other Rock (use description field for adding specifics)
Sand/Gravel

Anybody any objection to that last one? Sure they're perhaps not really mined or quarried but it is a product.

I'm just waiting for JohnnyM to pop up and tell me I'm an idiot...
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LeeW
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18 years ago
Sand and gravel are quarried in their own right, such as river Trent alluvial S & G around Nottingham along with other river sand and gravels.

There are also loads and loads small sand and or gravel pits marked on loads of old map.
The larger ones generally get restored to wildlife parks, lakes, housing or sporting parks such as Holme Pierrepont (Notts), Thorpe Park (Surrey)

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simonrl
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18 years ago
At last, (sorry for the delay to those who're waiting to add mines/quarries) I've added the required new minerals/products. After the debate these have been added:

Other Rock (for all the really specialised stuff, and the actual rock name can go in the description I guess)
Sand/Gravel
Sandstone
Talc

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