No not really. I meant party politics, Europe, xenophobes, pointless tribalism, ... the list is endless there are so many ways to describe it. And none of it remotely connected with mines! I know that I strongly disagree with the political opinions of a number of people here, but as they are rarely mentioned and almost everyone has the self-discipline to keep it off the site, we all enjoy each others' respect and keep the site friendly, and each other as friends/colleagues. There should be a new saying "the easiest way to lose half your friends is to discuss politics or religion with them."

I sort of agree with you Peter. The great thing about this site that it is open to anyone with an interest in mines and mining history, expert and non-expert alike. Everyone has an opinion and not everybody agrees with that opinion and have a perfect right to say so, but I have noticed that over the last 6-12 months a number of topics have become increasingly fractious not just on the perennial topic of access but pretty much across the board. Yes, there are sites which indulge in generalisations and finger-pointing to a greater degree than this one but we seem to be moving in their direction, and that is a pity. When a disinterested reader comes across this stuff it leaves a poor impression of the forum and the members and is a turn-off. If we aren't careful, soon we will be posting in block capitals, Daily Mail style!

Drillbilly/Stuey/Etc.
People would probably less likely to consider that you're trolling were you registered under a single name.

Please can you confirm which of of the multiple user-names you've created that you actually want to use so we can lock the rest off.

Ta! :flowers:

As for this thread generally, its not going to get locked in the immediate future as there's nothing too inflammatory in it but the mineral thing has been done to death over the years & it hasn't changed a sausage...

Ho Ho Ho Now we're getting down to it

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""I have noticed that over the last 6-12 months a number of topics have become increasingly fractious not just on the perennial topic of access but pretty much across the board""

Yeah me too, I commented about that in another post a while ago somewhere, I reckon it's all down to Dave and his mates, mid term blues and all, that's bollotics for you.

Lozz

The ethos of this forum should be what we have in common, and not what divides us.

If ever there was such wisdom is such few words

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Anyway, just to lighten things up, here is a photo of Roy’s collection.

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Don't know about minerals but I love the fireplace :thumbsup:


Oooops..... :offtopic: :ban: :lol:

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The North Herodsfoot Mine makes up part of our garden, it was in the same family for over 100 years and was a no go area.

We have cleared tons of rubbish away from the mine area and are stabilizing the buildings.

I have welcomed hundreds of mining enthusiasts form all over the world in the last 4 years.

I hire a digger to allow mineral collectors access to the dumps,

We even provide tea and home made cakes.

All at our expense!!

I give specimens to those who ask.

Your bigoted site has a section for sale, or does this mean only what you want to see for sale.

Look through my website and then make your negative comments.

And as a footnote the next time I catch people cutting down fencing on private mine sites and they quote I got the info from ADITNOW I will in future contact the relevant authorities.

Fontayne not only are you welcome to this site, you are a valued member.
I'm sorry you feel so upset but Mr Fellows did go out of his way to point out it was nothing against you as a person, anyway being a new member how were you to know what a reaction it would cause?
Please let bygones be bygones so we can all enjoy your future reports on the work you are doing, it is not only an asset to Cornwall but the whole of the mining community.

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Thank you, not quite sure what to make of this site.

From a purely commercial viewpoint, and considering where best to offer things for sale, it makes sense to use channels that provide the greatest degree of interest. For minerals, I reckon that's mineral-based websites. This is primarily a mining history and exploration website. That doesn't mean we don't collect minerals, but, as you can see, there are those who have reservations to some degree. So, from a purely commercial viewpoint, this is not the best site for it.

As the main interest here are exploration and history, it provides a much better opportunity for selling books, exploring kit, and the like. To make best use of this site, one is looking at advancing one's knowledge and understanding, so the gain tends to be literally academic rather than material.

There is really no need to confront the site with accusations of bigotry - you can see that we are basically a friendly bunch with a wariness in some quarters. If I was responsible for a historical site where funds were required to enhance it (and as it happens I am), I would most likely use this site to direct interested people to a place where such promotion was more appropriate perhaps. In my case this isn't necessary as it is site entrance fees and public donations that more than provide the necessary funds.

Like it or not, mineral sales do provoke passions, and that is a fact of life. Roy's concerns were that because of this, one has to be wary of what has happened in the past. In the case in question here, it is a rather unusual instance and I can sympathise with the protagonists who have no problem with it.

Thank you, not quite sure what to make of this site.

Why not stay on here and give it a try.
OK, a bit belated now but.... Welcome to aditnow

Now North Herodsfoot is on this database but under "Herodsfoot North".
I am not sure about this, maybe the district editor would like to rename it under its proper name and then Mr Fontayne can upload some of his pictures or whatever.
A lot of the south western mines were added in bulk to the site database from a computer daterbase that listed mines in a sort of alphabetical computer logical style that generated a debate a while ago.
The consenus was that the mines should be listed under their proper names, that is with "Wheal" or "North" or whatever first.

It would be nice to get this right as there is important work going on there.

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Perhaps for your new members it should be made clear that minerals are not to be sold on this site it is not possible to guess
that this is the case. I am not a mineral dealer but a collector of over 40 years. Of course I buy sell and swap with other collectors. Most Collectors are wonderful people of great enthusiasm and academic knowledge without them museums etc would be rather starved of specimens to display, as to sully the reputation of Dick Barstow as one of your members did that is unfair why stop there, what about the US army who blew up countless Engine Houses in the South West etc etc.

Perhaps for your new members it should be made clear that minerals are not to be sold on this site it is not possible to guess that this is the case..

I am in complete agreement, however I think this is the first time that this has come up.

I think its about time we all moved on.

I would strongly recommend that you formulate an overall mission statement for your website to include what you want to eventually achieve at the mine, how you are going about doing this, and those that will benefit from the work.
I am unsure about how things work down in Cornwall but there may be grant money available for you.

Take advice, play down the mineral angle. As you say you have been a collector for over 40 years and I asume that you have never had any problems. However you are now increasing your profile on the Internet.

Whatever help you may need in the future, this website is a good place to look for it.

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Drillbilly/Stuey/Etc.
People would probably less likely to consider that you're trolling were you registered under a single name.

Please can you confirm which of of the multiple user-names you've created that you actually want to use so we can lock the rest off.

Ta! :flowers:

As for this thread generally, its not going to get locked in the immediate future as there's nothing too inflammatory in it but the mineral thing has been done to death over the years & it hasn't changed a sausage...

Ho Ho Ho Now we're getting down to it

Knew it wouldn't take long for everyone else to tag on to that one!

:ban:

I'm lost
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Thank you, not quite sure what to make of this site.

Fontayne give it a chance - I would like to add my voice to others in welcoming you to AN. (Behind the user name I am Rick).

Many mine explorers get a little bit defensive when mineral collecting is mentioned - myself included.

Over in the Tamar valley we have had a number of issues from (for example) tearing down of ore chutes (Bedford Consols) to the desecration of Virtuous Lady.

That said I am not anti mineral collector per se; as an example I hosted a group from the Russell Society on the George and Charlotte dumps a year or so ago.

I imagine that few people on this site have a problem with responsible collectors, however most long term mine explorers can recount mineral collector horror stories and are wary of the species as a whole.

The initial response you got was not a meant as personal attack and should be seen in a much wider context.

Stick with us - you might even enjoy it 😉

Welcome to the site 🙂
I'm quite happy to alter the database entry to reflect Herodsfoot North.
Opinions or seconds anyone?

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Yes please, North Herodsfoot is what it should be.

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I'm of the same opinion.
North Herodsfoot is what I've always known it as.

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I'm of the same opinion.
North Herodsfoot is what I've always known it as.

I agree as well.
We all talked this sort of thing through a while back

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