http://ratrace.com/projectexplore/project-subterranean-snowdon/ 

Just spotted this....anyone in the know....know which mine is being used?

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One hundred & ninty-nine pounds!!! 😮 :guns:

'Waunfawr Tunnel' maybe? Think I've seen that on the 'approved' outdoor list at some point.

Some odd photos...

The slate tip is the Oakeley from the Llechwedd side. And the underground photo looks like a cave passage?

Best guess - something involving Zip World in Llechwedd, then minibus back to Llanberis.

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Its all a bit misleading tbh, they act like you'll climb out ontop on the slopes of Snowdon, but...

"Our Subterranean sojourn will rack up 4500ft of ascent as you make your way from the bowels of Wales’ ancient slate caverns, out into daylight and onto Snowdon to bag the high point of Wales. We will use bikes to connect from the mine to the mountain and make the journey an authentic human-powered endeavour throughout. This is a very long day but oh so worth it."

So there is cycling involved and then a joyus run up Snowdon.

No thanks, i'll stick with eating chips and cheese. :lol:

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Forgot about Llechwedd.......
£139 though!!!
I can think of a cheaper i.e free version!

Always thought of a highest to lowest adventure...T
Top of Snowdon to Ogof Ffynnon Ddu (if Im correct in thinking this is the deepest place in Wales??)
Mountain bike in between...

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Its interesting, the price, I assume most of it is just on insurance.

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No thanks, i'll stick with eating chips and cheese. :lol:

How about if we bribed you round the course with chips and cheese :lol:

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I'm not even sure the allure of cheesy chips would be enough to get me running. :lol:

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Its interesting, the price, I assume most of it is just on insurance.

Nah. Its just profit.

Proper fell/mountain races cost +/- a tenner and don't need to mark every inch of the route for the gung-ho yet adventurally challenged...

I'm not even sure the allure of cheesy chips would be enough to get me running. :lol:

Ok then... How about Cheesy Peas?

I’m told most of these events are organised and pitched at those around the south east (hence the fee perhaps) with local buisnesses only coming across the races when the banners appear by the roadsides.

The same named race was at Llanberis last year. Of all the races held there (and it feels like every weekend over the spring/summer), they looked to be the most disorganised. So who knows which mine they’ll inadvertently enter and pop out of 😉

Yeah I read about that. Dunno anything about it. I find the text worryingly vague about the location, they won't say and will only say after you've paid.

They've not asked if they can use any GB venues, and the answer would be no if they did. The only slate mine left in the scheme is Rhiwbach and that can hardly be described as a journey deep downwards.

Llechwedd could in theory have granted commercial use of their non-inspected backwater parts but I very much doubt they would allow it, and even if they did the legality would be very questionable in my opinion. And anyway, if they did, why wouldn't they say so in the description? The fact that they won't say where it is they intend to go speaks volumes to me.

The idea is similar to something we'd had on the boil for a while, a special deepest-point-to-highest-point day out for charities days and such.

We're quite lucky that the deepest bit you can get to in Cwmorthin is just over 1,300 feet under the grass, which is much deeper than anywhere else you can get to in the area.

By "Deep" I mean depth below surface, not altitude of course. The Deepest point by altitude is low tide at the beach!

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Looking at the URL again, I think they missed a "p" from the beginning of it....

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My initial thoughts were that GB or yourself Mr Ramoage sir might have been approached. Hmmmm
The phrase ‘given special permission’ is an odd one.
The only thing I can vaguely think of is that they get busses into the ‘electric mountain’ and run out. But that doesn’t really stand up to the slate mine description.
I’m sure I know someone who will sign up so will see.
Personally the last thing isn’t really want to do is ‘race’ out of a lovely slate mine. 😉

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Er..

1/2 mile underground?

2,640 ft?

In North Wales?

Even at a really generous 60ft a floor, that’s 44 floors.

Anyone care to tell me which mine in North Wales had 44 floors or a vertical extent of 2,640ft?

Unless Britannia had some hidden extension down below sea level, I’m stumped.

I can get Oakeley to a smidge more than two dozen floors. Any takers for more? :o

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Mrs Vanoord - who has more brain cells than I - points out that ‘half a mile underground’ may also refer to horizontal distance...

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There’s a mention of each team having guide. How many individuals that actually means is anyone’s guess. But for a race purportedly (I’m guessing what that word means by the way) well subscribed, someone here would shirley have heard.

Er..



Anyone care to tell me which mine in North Wales had 44 floors or a vertical extent of 2,640ft?

Unless Britannia had some hidden extension down below sea level, I’m stumped.

I can get Oakeley to a smidge more than two dozen floors. Any takers for more? :o

Well, there were not many. Oakeley must have been close to that in places, given that G floor exceeds 1300 feet and the floors go down as far as S. That's 12 further floors and at 50 feet spacing that would add 600 feet, so 2100 feet underground. But that's only a rough guess without looking at surveys. Might possibly have exceeded that.

As for Metal Mines - err, I cannot say for sure but I bet some of the Halkyn Mountain workings were that sort of money. The Milwr tunnel itself was about 1000' below grass around PYB shaft, and the workings I believe extended significantly below that horizon. 1600 feet below? Possibly not. But I don't know.

The only other mines in North Wales that deep were the Collieries around Wrexham. I believe the lower seams worked at Gresford were more than 3000 feet down, and I expect at Llay Main too. They were extremely deep collieries.

None of the above will help our friends though! They won't be going anywhere anything like 1/2 a mile deep in North Wales, but as your good lady pointed out, that could be horizontal. But if it's a low-to-high challenge, it would be a bit rubbish if it wasn't somewhere "deep".

The only other place I can think of is Electric Mountain, which is close to them. It's not a slate mine, although it's under a slate quarry, and it's certainly deep. But I'd be amazed if that's the place, the security there is understandably very tight and I just can't see them agreeing to that. Besides, it's peddled as a "mine trip".

Best of luck to them! But the "we're not saying where we are going, but please bring your own headlight" text on their advert doesn't inspire much confidence with me. Maybe I'm just a bit cynical these days.

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SRL & Vanoord should perhaps enter as Team Aditnow? :thumbup:

Mrs Vanoord - who has more brain cells than I - points out that ‘half a mile underground’ may also refer to horizontal distance...

That's why I felt cheated when I read Jules Verne's "20,000 leagues under the sea" as a kid.

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