If anybody out there wants to save North Yorkshire's world famous moorland puffins then there's a petition you can sign just here:
http://action.sumofus.org/a/north-york-moors-mine/2/3/?sub=fb 

Or if you would prefer to see the tourist trade of Whitby & Aidensfield killed in one fell swoop then don't.

Clearly I don't smoke anywhere near enough crack... :confused:

To he honest, I think he's over-reacting.

And what's a moorland puffin...? :confused:

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What a pillock. I hardly think it's going to be catastrophic like that!

Chris.

Planning is generally 5 years, by the way.

In the absence of a material start, a Section 73 application can be made to extend it.

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Well yes clearly this structure will destroy the whole National Park and its tourist trade.



Just like what this one did ?

And what's a moorland puffin...? :confused:

Indeed. But they must exist because the we are told that puffins must die because of mining at this particularly non-aqueous site...

Petition seems a bit pointless now as today the government said they won't be calling the decision in - no further delays.:thumbsup:

It is a pity they need a 23mile tunnel. I am sure they need the expense of that like a hole in the head.

I wonder if they have a cheap way of doing it, i.e. their idea of a tunnel is really a big pipe buried with cut & cover.

Chris.

What's annoying about this,here in north Norfolk they are digging trenches for power cables from the eyesore of a wind farm off the coast.
But the wind power industry doesn't seem to have to jump through hoops like the mining industry does

What's annoying about this,here in north Norfolk they are digging trenches for power cables from the eyesore of a wind farm off the coast.
But the wind power industry doesn't seem to have to jump through hoops like the mining industry does

course they dont, out of sight, out of mind! plus the turbines arnt in some rich guy from the citys back garden, or near a retirement village...

Reads as if the guy is expecting someone to nuke Pickering, fill up the Hole of Horcum and pour concrete over the daffs at Farndale.

I'm almost certain that the puffins moved to the Farne Islands ages ago - I've never seen one anywhere near Whitby in over 50 years - same applies for gannets.

Most of the orchids I've seen were on industrial wasteland and disused railway embankments, too.

I wonder if he's also planning to start a petition to remove all evidence of ironstone mining in Rosedale - definitely one of the most unsightly bits of "industrial devastation" in the NYMNP;)

After the mine has been built, and there's been precious little discernable impact on tourist numbers, nor the eco-apocalypse scoured the eastern moors bare from Roseberry Topping down to the Tabular Hills, I wonder how many of the people predicting this will admit that they were a little wide of the mark?

I'd also like to know where these puffins are living, having grown up at Ravenscar I don't recall ever seeing one, and if there's some supposed impact on the sea in the bay, how does that compare to the brine discharges from Boulby?

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Ironic that this won't be called in given the scale of departure from national policy compared with the recent govt announcement that fracking is banned in protected landscapes !

The Tyndrum gold mine programme has just been shown again on TV. Still no movement on that project as far as I can tell and that has also been around since tyhe 1960s. planning permission must be close to expiry ?

You have to wonder whether the Potash company will get the money together to move this one as well ?

the environemntal impact of this project is pretty negligible in the context of the North York Moors, so its good to see it going ahead. Most people will be completely unaware of its presence. At the weekend someone was up in arms about this and how it "Would Trash the North york Moors", which she visits regularly. I asked her the question "Have you visited Staithes before?" - "Yes, I love it there" - "So what did you thinkof Boulby Potash mine?" - "I've never seen it". Anyone knowing that area, knows full well that when you turn right into Staithes, you get a view of the full Boulby site, with its shafts and chimneys. What this proves, is unless you are actually looking for it, you just don't see it - and the visual impact of this one is far less than Boulby - no chimneys, no headframes, no processing plant, no rail loadout.

With regards to the tunnel v pipeline argument, they were never going to get planning permission for the pipeline - somone mentioned electricity cable trenches - these are no more than a metre wide, what was proposed here was a trench 8 metres wide across 20 miles of National Park.

"Have you visited Staithes before?" - "Yes, I love it there" - "So what did you thinkof Boulby Potash mine?" - "I've never seen it".

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Last year my nephew and his wife and family travelled from home in Birmingham to have a holiday in Staithes. When visiting me his wife asked "What's that industrial place a little higher up the hill?" I explained it was not only the very deep Boulby Mine but also the Dark Matter Laboratory. She was suitably impressed and not only did they enjoy the rest of their holiday but are quite happy to come back again.

And the last time I saw a puffin it was of the sea-going variety and on the local coast about 50 years ago.

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...With regards to the tunnel v pipeline argument... ...what was proposed here was a trench 8 metres wide across 20 miles of National Park.

I don't think the trench was to be 8m wide! Wasn't that overall width of the track to construct the pipeline - which would then be restored.

Agreed, nobody wil even notice the new mine.

...With regards to the tunnel v pipeline argument... ...what was proposed here was a trench 8 metres wide across 20 miles of National Park.

I don't think the trench was to be 8m wide! Wasn't that overall width of the track to construct the pipeline - which would then be restored.

Agreed, nobody wil even notice the new mine.

That would be similar to the gas pipeline from Pembrokeshire to Gloucester,around 8m was overall,to include spoil,pipe storage etc,
Hardly see where it was now.

No it was a twin 1.8m pipeline, with large thrust blocks at directional changes. The easement strip was another 6m. Operationally pipelines are a major issue, over time the salt deposits built up on the inside, eventually blocking the pipe. While at Boulby i saw several sections of pipe that were completely closed up. That explains why twin 1.8m pipes, so access can be gained to remove the deposits without shutting down production.

Presumably there is a special machine for the task?

More positive news, Phase 1 costs have been reduced and work could start as early as September!:thumbup:

http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/business/business-news/work-york-potash-mine-could-11569708 

Contractors have also been appointed (not too many surprises here):

AMC UK, a joint venture between Thyssen Group and Redpath Group has been selected as preferred contractor for all the shafts and the mine site development.
A Hochtief, Murphy Joint Venture has been selected as preferred contractor for the 6m dia/37km TBM driven mineral transport system.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/york-potash-mine-chooses-key-contractors-1-7943133#ixzz4Dp9QG2Yj 

http://www.constructionenquirer.com/2016/06/03/hochtief-murphy-wins-tunnels-for-2-4bn-york-potash-mine/ 

:thumbsup:

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