Ty Gwyn
11 years ago
Agree Graigfawr,them statements don`t make any sense at all,
Any Collier can tell you,that firing down a 4ft 6in top hole,looks like a 16 ton lorry has tipped its load,especially on a Saturday morning.
rikj
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11 years ago
York Potash have raised another £43m:

Sirius Minerals, the parent company of York Potash has announced that it has secured £43 million in capital. The money which was raised through a share placing, attracted a range of institutional investors from the UK and around the world and further endorses the support for the development of the York Potash Project.

The proceeds will be used to continue the current schedule of work, including planning approvals, sales and marketing activities, crop studies and general corporate overheads.

Chris Fraser, Managing Director and CEO of Sirius, said:

“The £43m capital raising has been a great success and endorsement of our strategy and the York Potash Project. With broad support from existing and new shareholders, this raising will provide funding for the Company’s definitive feasibility study and flexibility to accelerate detailed engineering and design work for the Project.”


The investment looks to be by Capital Group Companies, one of the largest investment management companies.

For a company like that, a long term successful mining operation is exactly the sort of thing they want to invest in. Once established it could give consistently good returns over the long term. The whole operation isn't about a small group looking to turn a profit after a few years, it's about long term institutional investors not having to worry about how they are going to pay pensions etc.

I can't imagine CGC take that much of a share in a company without putting some seriously brainy analysts to work on it first. Given the overall size of their investments £43m is very small, but they must see the operation as having a reasonable chance of going ahead, and becoming profitable.
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11 years ago
"rikj" wrote:


I can't imagine CGC take that much of a share in a company without putting some seriously brainy analysts to work on it first. Given the overall size of their investments £43m is very small, but they must see the operation as having a reasonable chance of going ahead, and becoming profitable.


Not exactly sure how finance at that level works but would assume that the funds will be drip-fed to Sirius upon the meeting of targets etc rather than dumped on them in one lump sum for them to fritter away on novelty rock & mucky Whitby lasses?

Either way, it does look positive.
rikj
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11 years ago
Looking a bit further, the £43m is the total from the placing of shares, so CGC may not be the only buyer, but looks to be the biggest.
ChrisJC
11 years ago
"RJV" wrote:

"rikj" wrote:


I can't imagine CGC take that much of a share in a company without putting some seriously brainy analysts to work on it first. Given the overall size of their investments £43m is very small, but they must see the operation as having a reasonable chance of going ahead, and becoming profitable.


Not exactly sure how finance at that level works but would assume that the funds will be drip-fed to Sirius upon the meeting of targets etc rather than dumped on them in one lump sum for them to fritter away on novelty rock & mucky Whitby lasses?

Either way, it does look positive.



It gets dumped on them in one go, to spend as they please.

Chris.
derrick man
11 years ago
Regarding the "45m wide trench" this may be a misinterpretation. Pipeline projects have an easement, or "spread" as it is usually known.

This consists of a fenced or demarcated strip of land which provides room for the topsoil pile (usually pushed to one side), the trench itself, arisings from the trench (usually dumped alongside, because most of the arisings go back in as backfill), stringing and welding the pipe, working room for the ditching spread (usually big side booms) and running track.

45m sounds a bit wide, but not stupidly so; I've certainly worked on 24" gas lines with 35m spread widths and there are plenty of places like the "boxes" which provide turning room, access and extra working space at crossings which were that size
christwigg
11 years ago
Its reached the hallowed turf of the Daily Mail now.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2586569/The-1billion-wont-scar-beauty-moors-thanks-22-mile-tunnel-long-Channel.html 

They are saying 'million cubic metres' of spoil will fill Wembley

So even they seem to disagree with this claim it will only be 1m deep.


rikj
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11 years ago
More detail on the proposed tunnel, geology, depth etc.

http://www.siriusminerals.com/site/assets/files/2063/140320_-_mts_qa-1.pdf 

Will be driven through the Redcar Mudstone, eminently suitable for tunneling they say. The article also points out that there are conveyor systems of similar - and larger - size already running successfully. TBM (Tunnel Boring Machine) companies have estimated an advance rate of 20-30m per day. York Potash is basing its figures on 20m/day.

christwigg
11 years ago
Latest newsletter here :-

http://yorkpotash.co.uk/site/assets/files/1/june_newsletter_web.pdf 

I've seen some drilling going on at what they are calling the "MTS Access Point" at Lockwood Beck.

Presumingly just some boreholes to test the ground at the moment.
rikj
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10 years ago
All the documents from the submitted planning application are now online as pdfs:

http://yorkpotash.co.uk/consultation/key-documents/ 

Some interesting schematics of the underground stuff.
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10 years ago
Northern Echo today, Boulby have some comments at last! :)

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/business/news/12899777.Approval_for___1_5bn_1_000_job_mine___but_rival_fears_major_impact/?ref=fbshr 
"PDHMS, WMRG, DCC, Welsh Mines Society, Northern Mines Research Group, Nenthead Mines Society and General Forum Gobshite!"
Trewillan
10 years ago
"Jimbo" wrote:

Northern Echo today, Boulby have some comments at last! :)

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/business/news/12899777.Approval_for___1_5bn_1_000_job_mine___but_rival_fears_major_impact/?ref=fbshr 



To borrow a famous quote, "They would say that, wouldn't they?"
somersetminer
10 years ago
"Trewillan" wrote:


To borrow a famous quote, "They would say that, wouldn't they?"



Of course, they dont want competition..sure they could use it as an excuse to lay some blokes off down the
line though :glare:
Its very early to say anything at this stage, we dont even know if they have the wherewithall to begin development yet, when the swing shovels turn up on site there will be a bit more confidance
John Lawson
10 years ago
In today's Times dealing n their shares is suspended until the outcome of the planning decision is known.

You wonder how much faith even the owners of this project have if they want to 'freeze' the current share price?
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10 years ago
"Shareholders in potash project developer Sirius Minerals (LON:SXX) can stop crossing their fingers for a bit after the company cleared another regulatory hurdle."

"Trading in the company’s shares was temporarily suspended today pending the outcome of a planning meeting of the Redcar and Cleveland Borough Council (RCBC)."

"At the meeting, councillors unanimously gave the go-ahead for the York Potash mine and mineral transport system."

"The application is a significant part of the overall approvals required for the delivery of the Project and an important step forward for Sirius,"

Shares added 7.69% to 14p each on the day.
Trewillan
10 years ago
"John Lawson" wrote:

In today's Times dealing n their shares is suspended until the outcome of the planning decision is known.

You wonder how much faith even the owners of this project have if they want to 'freeze' the current share price?



No need to be suspicious, this is normal procedure. It's also done before an AGM, to stop any manipulation of share prices before a big decision.

Check today's news, the local planners have approved the project, but the National Park and the Teesside planners still have to make their decisions. So much for the joined-up government we were promised!
somersetminer
10 years ago
"Trewillan" wrote:



Check today's news, the local planners have approved the project, but the National Park and the Teesside planners still have to make their decisions. So much for the joined-up government we were promised!



if they get approval, how do we know they have enough behind them (and intend) to actually get cracking? look at Cononish
Ty Gwyn
10 years ago
"somersetminer" wrote:

"Trewillan" wrote:



Check today's news, the local planners have approved the project, but the National Park and the Teesside planners still have to make their decisions. So much for the joined-up government we were promised!



if they get approval, how do we know they have enough behind them (and intend) to actually get cracking? look at Cononish




If they do get full approval from all parties concerned,that threat of starting up is enough to ruffle the feathers of Boulby,which has been shown from the start of the planning applications,and the take in the planning application could very well sterilize expansion for Boulby in the future,
So Sirus are holding some big cards in their hand,which could bring in a nice cheque without even developing a great deal.
Graigfawr
10 years ago
It'll be neither company's interest to repeatedly undercut each other's prices. In due course they'll come to an agreement to limit output so as to not flood the market and to maintain a price that that ensures a decent return for both companies' investors.
Antimosh
10 years ago
Good news ahead of the 30th June national park meeting.

http://www.gazetteherald.co.uk/news/13338143.Councils_back_plans_for_potash_mine/ 
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