Dean Allison
15 years ago
Me and the lads fancy something a bit further afield than our usual Nenthead patch and I have heard there are lots of nice underground things to see around Arkengarthdale and Swaledale. I aint familiar at all with the area and it will be quite a long drive so I was hoping someone could suggest a nice underground trip which doesn't involve SRT.

Something that would take up a whole day of exploring and doing a bit of photography would be great.

Many thanks in advance for any suggestions :)

Cheers
Dean
rikj
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15 years ago
"Dean Allison" wrote:

it will be quite a long drive



I'll let others make the suggestions, but with Swaledale you usually have to factor in quite a bit of walking as well!



Dean Allison
15 years ago
"rikj" wrote:

"Dean Allison" wrote:

it will be quite a long drive



I'll let others make the suggestions, but with Swaledale you usually have to factor in quite a bit of walking as well!





We dont mind walking Rik, but as we'll be driving quite a way from Northumberlnad, it would be good to in advance know of somewhere we could visit. There seems to be quite a few places round that area.
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15 years ago
Well, I think Chris & Rich will be able to fill you in on some places. Sir Francis, and the Brandy Bottle to Hard Level through trip look interesting. But both are wet.

I've only done some walk in/walk around stuff, but a lovely spot. A lot of the levels are right by the footpaths.


Dean Allison
15 years ago
Thanks mate. Any suggestions help as I know nothing of the area! Wet is fine, unless its neck level, as I cant afford a furry or wetsuit. Waist deep is no bother though. Will have a look at the Brandy Bottle album cheers! :thumbup:
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15 years ago
Hey Dean. Probably the best bet for a first visit is to park at Gunnerside and follow the path up the east bank of Gunnerside Gill. You'll hit the Sir Francis dressing floors after say a mile and from then onwards tips will come at you one after the other, on either side of the stream, a large number of them having something open at the top.

Its definitely worth the long walk to Blakethwaite though, one of the dale's most interesting mines. No deep water or SRT involved.
Dean Allison
15 years ago
Cheers Rich thats enough to keep me busy I reckon! I'll go and check out the map right now, thanks mate!
grover dave
15 years ago
Arkengarthdale is the one for you photo boys ,not to wet Old moulds,is good,great punchard gill area vgood check out the web sites ,20 mins from A66 west,drop me a message I will give you the crack. dave 🙂
allways look on the bright side
Dean Allison
15 years ago
Nice one Dave, thats all great info! Will get in touch later in the week, cheers :thumbup:
christwigg
15 years ago
Think everyone else has pretty much covered it, but either walk up Gunnerside or walk from Surrender Bridge up to the Old Gang area.

You'll be falling over obvious open levels, although if you want any specifics just ask.
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15 years ago
On a sort of related note, had a spur of the moment trip into the Old Gang mines yesterday. Dropped down into the Brandy Bottle Vein level for a interesting enough poke about and then went to look at some rises & leave by the usual Hard Level through trip route.

When we got to the bottom of the incline the water seemed a shade deeper than normal and going through the deep water at the end of the Black Crosscut it was impossible to get through without having half your head underwater at the lowest points. Didn’t think a great deal of it, putting it down to the rain we’d had during the preceding week however when we got to the flat out crawl into the drier sections of the crosscut we found that someone had stuffed plastic sheeting into the drainage pipe which normally limits the water level to just above chin depth and had placed a dead the size of a portable TV square across the exit from the crawl.

Now it could just be a coincidence of two natural occurrences happening at the same time but I don’t think so. The plastic had been properly scrunched up and shoved right into the pipe and I don’t think the fairly mild flow of water that flows through there could have done that. The dead could feasibly have slid down from the rubble pile on the left however its placement was perfect to block the exit and took a fair bit of shifting when laid flat out in water and if something that size had tumbled down of its own accord it would have brought a fair bit of the very loose rubble in that area with it which it hadn’t.

If it was intentional, you have to wonder at the mentality of someone who would have done such a thing. To get to that point from one side you have a good 50 yards of chin deep water, from the other a good hour’s flat-out march through low wet crawls, waist deep water and long, low, passages through crumbling shale. Not the sort of place your average spotty Herbert is going to wander into for a cheap laugh.
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15 years ago
Possibly a response to the repairs to the incline? Not my area so I'm just speculating.

Sounds like somebody was wanting to raise the water level just enough to keep people out. If explorers found water up to the roof, I guess most would turn back and put it down to something natural.
christwigg
15 years ago
Does seem like an unusual turn of events, the group who repaired the incline have always been keen on keeping the route open so it seems unlikely they would do something to make it harder.

The chin deep water was always enough to discourage tourists, I think nose deep is perhaps a little extreme.
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"christwigg" wrote:

Does seem like an unusual turn of events, the group who repaired the incline have always been keen on keeping the route open so it seems unlikely they would do something to make it harder.



What I was wondering Chris, was if someone didn't like what the group was doing. And this was a fairly subtle and informed way of blocking the route.

Anyhow, I don't do mines and politics, so my uninformed speculation ends here!

Dean Allison
15 years ago
Thank you for the suggestions lads. And thank you Chris for the emails and stuff. Thats plenty to keep us busy for quite a while I think!

One more question though. I fancy a look at Old Moulds and Routh. Just want to be prepared as it is a long way. Does the walk to the mines involve steep hill climbing or is it fairly level? And what kind of distance from the car would we be talking? Dont mind serious walking but just want to be prepared in advance, so we can work out how much time we will need, and how early to get out of bed 😉
christwigg
15 years ago
Nenthead is spoiling you Dean.
Unfortunately you will not be able to park next to the entrance !

christwigg
15 years ago
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"christwigg" wrote:

Does seem like an unusual turn of events, the group who repaired the incline have always been keen on keeping the route open so it seems unlikely they would do something to make it harder.



What I was wondering Chris, was if someone didn't like what the group was doing. And this was a fairly subtle and informed way of blocking the route.

Anyhow, I don't do mines and politics, so my uninformed speculation ends here!



Hmmm think you're reading a bit much into it all to be honest. More likely to be someone messing about to give the next visitor a hard time.
rikj
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15 years ago
Ahh, like rocks in a rucksack. That makes more sense!

christwigg
15 years ago
Yeah, or rolling a giant snowball into an entrance while someone is inside (you know who you are) :lol:
Dean Allison
15 years ago
"christwigg" wrote:

Nenthead is spoiling you Dean.
Unfortunately you will not be able to park next to the entrance !


Ha! I dont mind walking Chris, I also do a lot of hiking so thats fine. But yes, Nenthead has become an obsession 😉

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