johnnym
18 years ago
"simonrl" wrote:

I knew that much 🙂 Lowest fraction and all that...

But there is also a mined product known as (I think) either Bituminous rock or Bituminous coal.



Well, they got the La Brea tar pits in the good ole US of A, which I suspect would count, and someone (Lee?, Wyn?) mentioned earlier that they used to extract bitumen from the "Tar Tunnel" at Ironbridge, in Shropshire: "Over 200 years ago natural bitumen trickled like treacle into pools. It was turned into pitch, lamp black and rheumatics remedies. Now you can walk along this brick-lined tunnel where the bitumen still oozes through the walls. "

Better add it then, but it's not the same as bituminous coal, which I think is just a low grade coal with a lot of tar.

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simonrl
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18 years ago
That's fine then. I was confused as the Bituminous coal thing.

I think if ever a Bituminous coal mine needs adding that'll be a good example of where it gets added as 'coal' with the description field being use to explain in more detail.
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18 years ago
"Vanoord" wrote:

Not wishing to mess things up too much, but... why not have a generic 'Metal' mine for the ones that we can't agree whether they're copper, zinc or whatever?

And yes, Blue John is unique to whichever mine it was I visited a couple of years back, when swmbo had to physically restrain me from vanishing down a manway that had a 'No Entry' sign on it. For all the loveliness and pretty colour of Blue John, they seem capable of making the most horrible souvenirs you could imagine out of the stuff.



Surpisingly the name of the Blue John mine is Blue John - It's among the many tourist caverns/mines at Castleton in the Peak District
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18 years ago
New products added now...

Bitumen
Calcite
Cobalt
Ganister
Marble
Umber

I've removed Bath Stone, hope this meets with approval. We can put facts along the lines of 'product commercially sold as' or 'secondary product' and so forth in the mine description.

Let's keep building up the mineral list, it would be a good area for me to set aside a bit of time perhaps on a fortnightly basis to adding new minerals/products. Plus doing it staggered like that allows some time to discuss suggestions on the forum first.
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Captain Scarlet
18 years ago
Would it be possible to add - Antimony, Anhydrite and Sulphur at the next update ?
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18 years ago
Hello!
What would sandstone flags/slates come under?
Although made of sandstone, they're often considered as slates by quarrymen?

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18 years ago
If they're sandstone I'd classify it as sandstone. That they're described as slates (not slate) is probably more due to their physicaly properties?
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Tin Miner
18 years ago
Has anyone mentioned "Bauxite" yet? I haven't read all the post (lazy so and so). :zzz:
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18 years ago
No, nobody has mentioned that one yet :)

For the benefit of anybody coming late into this post, it's all about what is worth, and what is not worth, including on mineral/product type drop-down. This appears both when adding mines and when searching mines, and also runs the mines by type pages http://www.aditnow.co.uk/mineral/mines-quarries-uk-mineral-type.aspx .

I add to it fairly frequently, and after feedback from other members.

Basically we add major minerals and products and take a point of view on others. For example Fullers Earth was decided to come under Clay, and certain very specialised minerals where only 1 or 2 mines in the UK exist we opted to list under 'Other Rock', but in nearly every other instance add a specific classification.

I update the list every month or so, aside from anything else it avoids lots of 'unknown' mines which isn't very helpful to people looking for information.
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Tin Miner
18 years ago
Bauxite is the main constituent of Aluminium: - A mixture of the aluminium hydroxides, diaspore boehmite and gibbsite, in different amounts, together with impurities of iron oxide, phosphorus compounds and titania, the latter sometimes amounting to 4 per cent.
Rutley's Elements of Mineralogoy p. 322
Cat_Bones
18 years ago
Are there actually mines where bitumen is actually the main product? The Tar tunnel in Shropshire is a drainage adit for the Madeley/Blists Hill iron and coal mines... the Tar tunnel was driven with the intention of obtaining bitumen.... don't know if that makes any difference to it appearing on the list!
sparty_lea
18 years ago
Can we have witherite too?
Only one mine with it as main product but that did produce over half of the worlds supply of it.
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18 years ago
"Cat_Bones" wrote:

Are there actually mines where bitumen is actually the main product? The Tar tunnel in Shropshire is a drainage adit for the Madeley/Blists Hill iron and coal mines... the Tar tunnel was driven with the intention of obtaining bitumen.... don't know if that makes any difference to it appearing on the list!


The Tar Tunnel was driven with the intention of flooding it and using boats as transport underground from Blists Hill. However, during construction, the Bitumin was discovered so tha underground canal idea was abandoned and the Bitumin was dug for in small wells. Due to this, the Hay incline was built directly above the Tar tunnel for transport to the river Severn.
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18 years ago
Some advice please....
What is ironstone, and is ther something in the list already that covers it ???

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18 years ago
Shall add witherite, bauxite, Antimony, Anhydrite and Sulphur at the next update.

Can anybody advise Barney re ironstone?
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sparty_lea
18 years ago
Ironstone usually means siderite and/or its oxidation products.
Iron would cover it along with hematite style iron ores

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18 years ago
Thanks sparty_lea, so for now just:

witherite, bauxite, Antimony, Anhydrite and Sulphur

Unless anybody has any more feedback on those?
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18 years ago
Could we add arsenic please?
its not strictly a sole product of any mine I know but most of the mines in the tamer valley, many in Cornwall and a few elsewhere produced arsenic a by-product or as there only product in the latter working life of the mine, notability Devon great consoles near Gunnislake which produced 72,279 tons refined arsenic between 1844 to 1902!
Tin Miner
18 years ago
Arsenic is not a mineral as I understand. Arsenic is the result of refining and burning Arsenopyrite, commonly known to the mining community as Mispickel. FeAsS: Arsenic 46%. Occurrence in tin, copper, cobalt, nickel and especially lead and silver veins, usually traceable to igneous intrusions; examples of pneumatolytic veins (tin and copper) are those of Cornwall & Devon.
Rutley’s Elements of Mineralogy. p. 477-78
sparty_lea
18 years ago
"Tin Miner" wrote:

Arsenic is not a mineral as I understand. Arsenic is the result of refining and burning Arsenopyrite, commonly known to the mining community as Mispickel. FeAsS: Arsenic 46%. Occurrence in tin, copper, cobalt, nickel and especially lead and silver veins, usually traceable to igneous intrusions; examples of pneumatolytic veins (tin and copper) are those of Cornwall & Devon.
Rutley’s Elements of Mineralogy. p. 477-78


You could make the same argument for tin, refined from cassiterite; or lead, refined from galena; iron refined from siderite or hematite etc etc.
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