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gNick
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11 years ago

We have a dream to move the Nenthead Eimco undercover with the ultimate intention of getting it back to some semblance of working condition.

With this in mind does anyone out there have any useful info on the 12B, like manuals, parts lists, exploded diagrams? Most important is how to disengage the drive so the wee beastie can be moved without a heavy lift - I find it difficult to get a crane through a doorway these days...::)

Don't look so embarrassed, it's a family trait...

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RJV
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11 years ago

That might prove to be somewhat of a conundrum for the industrial archaeologists of the future! 🙂

Morlock
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11 years ago

There might be someone on Welsh Coal Mines forum with the required info.

Manxman
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11 years ago

Does Google not provide any answers?

exspelio
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11 years ago

"gNick" wrote:
Most important is how to disengage the drive so the wee beastie can be moved without a heavy lift - I find it difficult to get a crane through a doorway these days...::)

IIRC, there was a drive pin somewhere that you knocked out to disengage the wheels from the motor.
Mind you, it was over 30 years ago and the brain has had a lot of pickling since then.
Does this jog anyones memory?

Always remember, nature is in charge, get it wrong and it is you who suffers!.

AdM Michael
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11 years ago

There might be some useful stuff on this page:

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/result.html?sort=relevance&srch=top&query_txt=eimco&submit=&patents=on

You'll need to check the PDFs for the drawings.

PeteJ
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11 years ago

"gNick" wrote:
We have a dream to move the Nenthead Eimco undercover with the ultimate intention of getting it back to some semblance of working condition.

With this in mind does anyone out there have any useful info on the 12B, like manuals, parts lists, exploded diagrams? Most important is how to disengage the drive so the wee beastie can be moved without a heavy lift - I find it difficult to get a crane through a doorway these days...::)

I have a parts list with "exploded" diagrams

Pete Jackson
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gNick
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11 years ago

"PeteJ" wrote:

I have a parts list with "exploded" diagrams

Should have checked with you first - d'oh...

Don't look so embarrassed, it's a family trait...

Manicminer
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11 years ago

"exspelio" wrote:

"gNick" wrote:
Most important is how to disengage the drive so the wee beastie can be moved without a heavy lift - I find it difficult to get a crane through a doorway these days...::)

IIRC, there was a drive pin somewhere that you knocked out to disengage the wheels from the motor.
Mind you, it was over 30 years ago and the brain has had a lot of pickling since then.
Does this jog anyones memory?

There is a pin between the two wheels on one side that you move, inside a circular housing. If I remember it was a short pin on a cam that you moved up or down and that then pulled a lever underneath somewhere.

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BenCoulson
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11 years ago

#10

On the opposite side to the controls, between the wheels, is a small foot operated lever, which by way of a small cam, engages and disengages the drive - allowing the shovel to free wheel and be propelled along the track by a locomotive or whatever means available.

We have a 12B at Lea Bailey Light Railway - we have the rocker mechanism working (as demonstrated in a YouTube Video:

?list=PLZWKiKiRxGhHCMxGwuTI5LIHSRwUDOjVY) but the propulsion mechanism is still being worked on.

Our Chairman, Rob Needham has a copy of the brochure / instruction manual for the rocker shovel which we were looking at on Sunday. It even has diagrams of how to lay the track inside your mine for efficient operation. I shall PM you his e-mail address so you can request a copy.

-=# Ben Coulson #=-

Gavin
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11 years ago

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Why not check with the guys at Rodgerly mine they are still using an Emco.

GAVIN

ebgb
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11 years ago

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"Gavin" wrote:
Why not check with the guys at Rodgerly mine they are still using an Emco.

and if memory serves there is one, or maybe 2 dead ones sat in the grass

http://bf494.co.uk

Gavin
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11 years ago

#13

At least 2 on has tank tracks though ?

GAVIN

Darran Cowd
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11 years ago

#14

If your in Yorkshire anytime soon your more than welcome to have a look round ours and talk to our fitters who got it working (all ex-NCB time served); we've probably got all the technical bumph in the library too, bring a digital camera and you can copy as much as you need...

gNick
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11 years ago

#15

I might well take you up on that...

We discovered that the clutch works at the weekend, now the interesting bit is to get it undercover, all the more difficult as no chance of undoing any bolts.

Don't look so embarrassed, it's a family trait...

gNick
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11 years ago

#16

Further on the subject of the Nenthead Eimco, does anyone happen to have a good picture of the name plate on the side? Somebody has very kindly (:curse:) removed it & it would be nice to see what it said...

Don't look so embarrassed, it's a family trait...

Mr Mike
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11 years ago

#17

Best crop I can get...

[photo]Personal-Album-125-Image-96998[/photo]

Eimco
Rock (er?) Shovel

Mr Mike www.mineexplorer.org.uk

John Lawson
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11 years ago

#18

To take up the point regarding the Rogerly mine Elmco, at the start of this years mining, the said machine suffered a major break down and was out of use for about a month.
Cal & Jesse managed to obtain the necessary spares for it, and when I saw it in mid August it was working as good as ever!
Nick I am absolutely certain that they would provide you with info on how to get the engine back to life!
I had not realised until they told me that it was made indirectly by the Atlas Copco co.and that they have the necessary spares!
All the more surprising really when I was told of the age of it!

Ty Gwyn
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11 years ago

#19

When you mention the clutch work`s,i take it you mean it can be placed out of drive ,so is free to move if on rail`s?

Graigfawr
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11 years ago

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"Mr Mike" wrote:
Best crop I can get...
Eimco
Rock (er?) Shovel

http://www.flickriver.com/places/United+Kingdom/Scotland/Gorebridge (image is abuot 40 to 50 images down from top on an exceedingly long page) for a tolerably clear image of a similar plate.