AndyC
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12 years ago
While I agree with much of what is said here, Newstuff's post matches my feelings most closely.

While I am happy for stuff I have uploaded here an elsewhere to be used, it would be on a strictly not-for-profit basis.

However another thought hits me - what about professionals (or people like myself who is currently making koves to make a few quid on the side using photography).

Who in their right mind will buy an image that has been registered/watermarked, when they can simply use one from elsewhere?
Been injured while at work and are not to blame?

Get over it.
Blober
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12 years ago
Basically my feelings as well, I'm not a good photographer but I don't like the thought my stuff can be stolen and I would be powerless to prosecute because they just happened to find it on Google.

But like everyone has said, we will have to wait and see what comes of this.
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ttxela
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12 years ago
I know little about such things but it might be worth mentioning that the proffessional photographer who was at one of our recent Muay Thai fights has his website set up so certainly none of the obvious photo nicking techniques work such as "save picture as" just result in a blank.
christwigg
12 years ago
"ttxela" wrote:

I know little about such things but it might be worth mentioning that the proffessional photographer who was at one of our recent Muay Thai fights has his website set up so certainly none of the obvious photo nicking techniques work such as "save picture as" just result in a blank.



Nothings ever going to stop the good old "Print Screen" button working 😉

Only foolproof way to stop people saving your photos is to just keep them off the internet.
AndyC
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12 years ago
"christwigg" wrote:

"ttxela" wrote:

I know little about such things but it might be worth mentioning that the proffessional photographer who was at one of our recent Muay Thai fights has his website set up so certainly none of the obvious photo nicking techniques work such as "save picture as" just result in a blank.



Nothings ever going to stop the good old "Print Screen" button working 😉

Only foolproof way to stop people saving your photos is to just keep them off the internet.



Ah but with Print Screen you will not actually capture a high-res image, and so will be useless except maybe for the web.
Been injured while at work and are not to blame?

Get over it.
christwigg
12 years ago
"AndyC" wrote:


Ah but with Print Screen you will not actually capture a high-res image, and so will be useless except maybe for the web.



There are fairly easy ways around everything for those with a bit of knowledge who are willing to tinker.


Cuban Bloodhound
12 years ago
Keep your stuff non public, unnamed, and low res. Then if someone does manage to get a of hold of it, it shouldn't be much use to them.
LeeW
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12 years ago
I put a fair few of my photos on to Flickr, generally they are publically viewable and you can download the original upload photo without any watermark etc. Although they are all copyrighted to me.

If there is anything of a sensitive nature, then it will either not have a description / location etc and will be restricted access.

Personally my photos are just there to keep a record and to pass on information to other folks. I have had a few people ask to use some of my photos, I haven't charged anything - because they have all been for non-profit stuff and to show to the general public who might be interested in mining etc.

As long as they ask to use them, I don't mind. I have had people use some of my things in the past and publish them in papers etc without referencing properly - bloody annoying and they got told so.

That Print Screen button is a really useful button. Keeping stuff off the interent can stop mose people getting it, but it really depennds on why you are taking the photos


I went in a mine once.... it was dark and scary..... full of weirdos


When do I get my soapbox, I need to rant on about some b***cks
ICLOK
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12 years ago
Well said Lee, I don't mind people using my pictures for professional use as long as I get a credit at least, and I have found mostly folk do ask..... that said people taking the real p**s are those who steal an image adapt it and then make money off it, twice I've had that on railway photographs put into print where they have been paid for my shot!!! One guy recently SOLD 6 images lifted off a UK rail site to a rail mag in US and got $200 dollars!!!! People taking my images for their own use is fine with me and if it helps spread the mining hobby even better....
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh Creeper!!!!!
Trewillan
12 years ago
"lozz" wrote:

"Trewillan" wrote:

"lozz" wrote:

How do we stand pre legislation?

Lozz.



Copyright Designs and Patents Act 1988 - some bedtime reading for you!



It will be to complicated for me but thanks anyway.

Lozz.



Don't give up, try some of the Photography magazines' web sites, you'll probably find a "beginners guide" explaining the basics.
sparty_lea
12 years ago
I used to have ( many years ago) a website about north pennine mines and I found people nicking whole articles -pictures and text- and passing it off as their own.

Nothing is safe if you put it on the web, dont do it unless your aim is just to get it out there.
There are 10 types of people in the world.

Those that understand binary and those that do not!
christwigg
12 years ago
"sparty_lea" wrote:

I used to have ( many years ago) a website about north pennine mines and I found people nicking whole articles -pictures and text- and passing it off as their own.

Nothing is safe if you put it on the web, dont do it unless your aim is just to get it out there.



I don't understand why some people would do that ?

We're a fairly small community without mass market appeal so its going to stick out like a sore thumb very quickly.

:confused:
Blober
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12 years ago
This has thankfully made me a little bit more comfortable with it
http://duckrabbit.info/blog/2013/05/myths-and-facts-the-enterprise-and-regulatory-reform-act-2013-and-how-it-will-affect-photography/ 
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pwhole
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12 years ago
As a self-employed artist and designer, I've had work ripped off in the past, and before the internet existed too. It can be a difficult issue, especially working in for what many consider a 'hobby' area. I too consider underground work a hobby, but photography and art is also my job, as I'm often paid to make photographs, or I sell images afterwards.

I'm happy to post low-res examples or watermarked larger images on the net as long as they're credited if used, However, if someone then wanted to publish those images, and were prepared to pay for them, then I would happily take their money, as this is what I do for a living, however flimsy a living it may be sometimes.

I've held back many images from the net in order to protect a commercial product before, and will do so again, no doubt. If people paid artists more for their work, we wouldn't all be so damn skint 😉
Willy Eckerslyke
12 years ago
The Royal Photographic Society has a statement about it:
http://www.rps.org/news/detail/society_news/the_err_act_-_the_rps_statement 

The British Institute of Professional Photography are a little more vocal on their Facebook page:
www.facebook.com/pages/British-Institute-of-Professional-Photography/150012905109071
"The true crimefighter always carries everything he needs in his utility belt, Robin"
BertyBasset
12 years ago
It appears you need to be a Facebookee to view the Facebook one.
Willy Eckerslyke
12 years ago
I've just edited the FB link which may now work. I see the content without logging in, though there's a delay before it appears.
"The true crimefighter always carries everything he needs in his utility belt, Robin"
BertyBasset
12 years ago
Yep, can see now.

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