LAP
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17 years ago
Helo all
This nation has a good many mines to visit - including many working ones, not forgetting a massive number of caves. I might be visiting sometime in the next year due to whole family interest in the place. Anyone ever been?

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17 years ago
Just found your post... I buy and sell rollingstock and trains in Bulgaria and Romania.... certainly plenty of mining and masses of sites in Romania producing bauxite, bismuth, copper, gold, manganese, molybdenum, silver, and uranium amongst much other stuff! Baia Mare region is I am told a big mining area. However they have no concept of industrial archaeology in the way we do... attitudes are less than welcoming, but you can try... the old commy era attitudes are still prevalent... I will see if I can get some contacts and if so will pass them on.

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Captain Scarlet
17 years ago
"ICLOK" wrote:

J However they have no concept of industrial archaeology in the way we do...



This is a very interesting observation. I wonder if this is because in some way maybe a working industry and an historical appreciation of that industry are mutually exclusive. When we had a thriving coal mining industry, did our miners feel any kind of affinity with the miners of yore, or were they (understandably) focused on wage packets and production figures.
Maybe the capacity to appreciate an industry in a historical context is the true sign that the industry has indeed passed into history...


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carnkie
17 years ago
A complicated point Colonel as I think social and cultural changes would also have to be considered. Take mining in Cornwall in its heyday, although I’m sure other areas will be the same, I’m pretty sure the overriding consideration of miners and their families would have been purely and simply, survival. We rightly look back at our mining heritage with pride but sometimes I feel with rose tinted glasses attached to the hindsight. It was a period of death, sickness, starvation and exploitation. Which makes the achievements of miners and their families even more remarkable and it’s these achievements that we remember today, hopefully not forgetting the price paid. Reminds me of a verse from the Cornish poet and miner John Harris.

A month was nearly ended,
And he severe had wrought
Day after day in darkness,
And it was all for nought
The mineral vein had faded
And now all hope was fled,
Tomorrow should be payday
His children have no bread.

If the metal industry was still thriving I like to think that miners and the rest would still look back and remember the importance of the past even though there have huge changes in social and cultural conditions. But I have my doubts.



The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.
LAP
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17 years ago


An interesting subject with a lot of truth in it. As is said - in Britain we're lucky to have some many good records of mining/quarrying activities - could it even be so that Brittish people care more about their mining heritage than do many other countries? Britain is good for mines yes, but as are many other countries - but are there big online databases on them? No! lol
I think part of the for this is that our historical mine records are so good, and can on the whole give us a good idea of what went on.


I agree with Colonel's idea about "passing into History". For instance in the 50s - little attention was given to the conservation of mining sites, possibly because coal and slate mining were still very much alive. It's the same with milol chimneys, many we nocked down - due to people feeling that there were too many around. Now - some say there are too few of them...


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Byt vndyd mwyhaf - byth onddyth moyav
Lliaws a bwyllaf - Líows o boylav
Ac a bryderaf - ac o boryddarav
Kyfarchaf y veird byt - covarcav yr vairth
Pryt nam dyweid - poryth na'm dowaith
Py gynheil y byt - Pa gonail y byth
Na syrch yn eissywyt - na soroc yn eishoyth
Neur byt bei syrchei - nour byth bai sorochai

ICLOK
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17 years ago
I can guarantee that there is no interest beyond $ earned $ output achieved by the mining companies. Lots of Western Companies have money out there without any of the H & S issues.... people are poor and a good regular job is prized ... they are VERY poor and don't give a crap (re heritage usually) as long as food on table, being in the EU has caused major turbulence in local economic terms, if Uncle Joes old copper mine don't pay its gone along with the workforce. They understand and are proud of the family links but never enough that they have time for it. Strangely though as in every country railway workers tend to be mega proud of their past and especially if they have lineage. So theres hope for mining! I'm back out in a month so will see what data I can get from my contacts and customers.

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gallium
16 years ago
ditzy
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16 years ago
I have relatives in oradea in bihor, romania
we visited a couple of years ago and looked in some abandoned workings
have been given contact details for the romanian speleo federation for next time and the president said to say he wants to be at hidden earth
can pm details if you still wanyt them

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