Paul Marvin
5 years ago
Here we are guys its took us a LONG time to get this done and some bloomin hard work, so you a can now get to see what we see. It is very rare nowadays to be the first down tunnels that have not seen any humans for a long time. Its always very exciting as you never know what you will see.

The visibility is not so good down the incline end leading me to believe that this end is affected by rain water. The far end as you will see is almost like no water . The artifacts get better as the film goes on ! hope you guys enjoy our efforts.


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5 years ago
Great video, really enjoyed it and could watch that sort of thing all day :)

And maximum respect......if walking around mines isn't dangerous enough, diving them is next level 😮
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5 years ago
That's cool Paul. I love the woodwork at the end!
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5 years ago

Great video 😉 So there is track down the incline. Nice to see the double track down there. Timbers at the end, holding something up or a blast shelter ?
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5 years ago
Brilliant video Paul, and hats off to your dedication in diving these mines and producing these videos.

Strangely eerie watching it knowing nobody will ever walk there again.
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Paul Marvin
5 years ago
Must say Simon it does seem to be getting harder for us now , I have a long list of injuries now thats accumulated.
We need to get back and get some footage in Rhiwbach, we have put a lot of line in there but the visibility is nowhere near as good especially in and around the main pool. Some nice stuff down there though
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Paul Marvin
5 years ago
"Margot" wrote:

That's cool Paul. I love the woodwork at the end!
Margot



I think the wood props served two purposes one to support the roof and another to support the scree fill up the incline as there is a void the other side of them.
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danswift
5 years ago
Looks incredible, have you ever dived any of the old copper / lead workings? I imagine it would be a lot more difficult than slate as the workings where generally smaller.
ChrisBones69
5 years ago
Amazing video. I’ve always wanted to know what was down that incline, and you’ve been able to answer a bit of that question. I love seeing a dive video because it’s something I can’t do and the water seems to preserve all the goodies like old timber bridges etc and it’s fascinating what’s down there. No chance me using my snorkel then lol 😉. As long as all rubbish etc is taken home and mine doesn’t turn into new diving centre. Good effort. Was expecting much more artifacts though. (Sorry about rubbish comment, was just discussing Croesor in previous post and would dread to see this clean mine turn to Croesor)
Paul Marvin
5 years ago
Are you thinking of any in particular ?
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danswift
5 years ago
"Paul Marvin" wrote:

Are you thinking of any in particular ?



If that was aimed that me there is an enticing incline at Bwlch y plwm that dissappears Into the depths... Among a lot of others I often wonder if anyone has dived.
Paul Marvin
5 years ago
We had a look at it and quickly decided that although the water looks very clear a tiny bit of disturbance even with very careful finning technique that the visibility would very quickly turn to zero, we have tried Coniston copper and after approx 30 mts we turned back deeming it just too dangerous. If that is the case it is just suicidal too carry on regardless , people have unfortunately lost their lives doing this . There is another we have recently been diving but that won't be filmed and released because it will definitely quickly turn into a dive site and get ruined.
As a rule if its a pool leading to tunnels or a incline things can start a bit grim and then improve , a shaft starts grim and then becomes much worse
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Paul Marvin
5 years ago
"ChrisBones69" wrote:

Amazing video. I’ve always wanted to know what was down that incline, and you’ve been able to answer a bit of that question. I love seeing a dive video because it’s something I can’t do and the water seems to preserve all the goodies like old timber bridges etc and it’s fascinating what’s down there. No chance me using my snorkel then lol 😉. As long as all rubbish etc is taken home and mine doesn’t turn into new diving centre. Good effort. Was expecting much more artifacts though. (Sorry about rubbish comment, was just discussing Croesor in previous post and would dread to see this clean mine turn to Croesor)




Chris I dont think this mine will become " a new Dive centre " as it requires a lot of effort getting kit up there and the younger generation of mine/cave divers wont do the leg work, if they cant smash there way up in a 4x4 its to much effort for them . This I believe this is the case at Croesor I have heard ? :(:(
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TheBogieman
5 years ago
Excellent! I wonder did my Nain ever visit those parts? She worked for Randall and Lucy Casson at their house, Bron y Garth (formerly the Spooner's residence) in Portmadoc (old spelling!) between 1891 and 1907 and frequently went up to the quarry via the Ffestiniog Railway with the Cassons on his monthly inspection visit. Randall Casson was the principle solicitor of Breeze, Casson and George and quarry owner. The 'George' was no less than David Lloyd George who was Randall's Articled Clerk and my Nain used to serve him tea on the lawn at Bron y Garth, also to Randall's nephew Lewis (later Sir Lewis) Casson and his fiance, (Dame) Sybil Thorndike... On her marriage to my Taid, she received one of those wonderful slate fans made in the quarry from Lucy. Regrettably, the fan disappeared from our family back in the early 1950's.
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Paul Marvin
5 years ago
"TheBogieman" wrote:

Excellent! I wonder did my Nain ever visit those parts? She worked for Randall and Lucy Casson at their house, Bron y Garth (formerly the Spooner's residence) in Portmadoc (old spelling!) between 1891 and 1907 and frequently went up to the quarry via the Ffestiniog Railway with the Cassons on his monthly inspection visit. Randall Casson was the principle solicitor of Breeze, Casson and George and quarry owner. The 'George' was no less than David Lloyd George who was Randall's Articled Clerk and my Nain used to serve him tea on the lawn at Bron y Garth, also to Randall's nephew Lewis (later Sir Lewis) Casson and his fiance, (Dame) Sybil Thorndike... On her marriage to my Taid, she received one of those wonderful slate fans made in the quarry from Lucy. Regrettably, the fan disappeared from our family back in the early 1950's.




I have no idea Bogieman 😢
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Paul Marvin
5 years ago
"SimonRL" wrote:

Brilliant video Paul, and hats off to your dedication in diving these mines and producing these videos.

Strangely eerie watching it knowing nobody will ever walk there again.



Thanks Simon I must say being the first to swim down virgin passage is indeed a privilege and also very macabre , just not know what you are going to come across . :blink: :blink: BTW not come across your fin !
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