New ladder to Proud's Flats · AditNow Community

gNick
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To try and stop any more damage to the mostly complete hopper (a rather rare thing in Hangingshaw) that was the way up to Proud's Flats, a ladder has been put in up the rise that is the continuation of the second pitch down from Proud's Sump.
The old route is still in at the moment because we ran out of time but will be cleared in the next few weeks. If it is your rope, and you want it back give me a shout.

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royfellows
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8 years ago

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Nicely secured. Something I do and like to see.

My avatar is a poor likeness.

John Lawson
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8 years ago

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I am assuming, Nick, that this ladder is from the Hangingshaw branch of the Rampgill Horse level to the Proud's Sump Flats?
If this the case then you have restored one of the original ways into the flats, which our P.D.M.H.S./N.M.R.S. group first,
used way back in the late 1970's!
In this case, the late, John MacFerson, when, going through a crawl, in Carr's level, accidentally dropped a tackle bag down into, Rampgill H.L. He went off accompanied by Mike Luff to look for it.
They realised that Rampgill H.L. was clear under the flats.
Subsequently we 'borrowed ' an Aluminium ladder left in Carr's level, by the mine lessee David Wilson, and placed it there.

John Lawson
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8 years ago

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I am assuming, Nick, that this ladder is from the Hangingshaw branch of the Rampgill Horse level to the Proud's Sump Flats?
If this the case then you have restored one of the original ways into the flats, which our P.D.M.H.S./N.M.R.S. group first,
used way back in the late 1970's!
In this case, the late, John MacFerson, when, going through a crawl, in Carr's level, accidentally dropped a tackle bag down into, Rampgill H.L. He went off accompanied by Mike Luff to look for it.
They realised that Rampgill H.L. was clear under the flats.
Subsequently we 'borrowed ' an Aluminium ladder left in Carr's level, by the mine lessee David Wilson, and placed it there.

legendrider
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8 years ago

#5

I guess the old alu ladder has been re-purposed?

this was a genuine North Pennines mining relic having been liberated from Whiteheaps by Alex F in the early 90's! :angel:

MARK

festina lente[i]

Jim MacPherson
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8 years ago

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Just to "compare and contrast" as A Level essay questions used to ask.

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Photo's not nice as gNick's,

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gNick
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8 years ago

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Interesting if it was the original way into the flats because where we have put the ladder was up until a while ago choked. Mind the choke debris did have assorted modern rubbish in it.

No equipment has yet been repurposed, the old ladder probably should be in a museum, one of instruments of torture perhaps!

As a general point, the new ladder has a grab line at the top, not that you really need it but some might like the extra comfort. I don't intend to put a safety line for the full height as it seems a bit OTT.

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legendrider
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8 years ago

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"gNick" wrote:
I don't intend to put a safety line for the full height as it seems a bit OTT.

You will of course have done a full geological survey to establish the soundness of the substrate, risk-assessed the ladders in accordance with Working At Height Regs, and affixed suitable signage demonstrating correct method of use.

'nuff said 😉

MARK

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PeteJ
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8 years ago

#9

What was rather more entertaining was the work last year to remove the choke in the rise. This job was tackled from below......

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gNick
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8 years ago

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"legendrider" wrote:

"gNick" wrote:
I don't intend to put a safety line for the full height as it seems a bit OTT.

You will of course have done a full geological survey to establish the soundness of the substrate, risk-assessed the ladders in accordance with Working At Height Regs, and affixed suitable signage demonstrating correct method of use.

'nuff said 😉

MARK

Just a Do Not Use sticker on the ladder!

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maltabb
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8 years ago

#11

Liking the look of this - thanks Nick!

RJV
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8 years ago

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"royfellows" wrote:
Nicely secured. Something I do and like to see.

Can't see any cable ties there to be honest.

The smaller ladder that dangledin the hopper used to have at least one. A right proper job!

Mine donkey
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8 years ago

#13

Tbf I did offer 2 cable ties out of my bag but we decided to be fancy.
Could of also used some bell wire that is at the bottom of the level.

gNick
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8 years ago

#14

"RJV" wrote:

"royfellows" wrote:
Nicely secured. Something I do and like to see.

Can't see any cable ties there to be honest.

The smaller ladder that dangledin the hopper used to have at least one. A right proper job!

I thought that the cable ties looked too substantial and I left the bell wire for another day as was too lazy to go back up the ladder again.

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John Lawson
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8 years ago

#15

Hi guys, thanks for clearing up the ladder's position, it is a fair number of years since I have been in this flat, and the way that you are explaining it's situation, would suggest to me that you have opened up another hopper way,(there were several), into this flat.
As, the old ladder seemed to move around, I would suggest, that you tie a chain to it and anchor the chain on a Rawlbolt, well fixed into the wall.
Talking about this flat, raises another point, which I could never, explain, perhaps a Peter & Nick, might know?
In the 80's, Earby( who else!), dug out a passageway in the flat, which at the time was known as the Proud's extension, into a large stoped area.
The question, I have always wondered, what is the name of this Vein working?

John Lawson
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8 years ago

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Hi guys, thanks for clearing up the ladder's position, it is a fair number of years since I have been in this flat, and the way that you are explaining it's situation, would suggest to me that you have opened up another hopper way,(there were several), into this flat.
As, the old ladder seemed to move around, I would suggest, that you tie a chain to it and anchor the chain on a Rawlbolt, well fixed into the wall.
Talking about this flat, raises another point, which I could never, explain, perhaps a Peter & Nick, might know?
In the 80's, Earby( who else!), dug out a passageway in the flat, which at the time was known as the Proud's extension, into a large stoped area.
The question, I have always wondered, what is the name of this Vein working?

gNick
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8 years ago

#17

I have it on absolutely no authority whatsoever that it is called Veiny McVein Face. :oops:

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PeteJ
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8 years ago

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"John Lawson" wrote:

Talking about this flat, raises another point, which I could never, explain, perhaps a Peter & Nick, might know?
In the 80's, Earby( who else!), dug out a passageway in the flat, which at the time was known as the Proud's extension, into a large stoped area.
The question, I have always wondered, what is the name of this Vein working?

Name not known. Does not appear on any available maps and plans, not on the geological map. Surveyed in de tail and actually has the shape of a curve swinging round to the west. The explosive cans and bits of explosives found there appear to date from 1900-1914.

Pete Jackson
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John Lawson
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8 years ago

#19

Thanks for the info on the unnamed Proud's sump horizon Vein.
I could not find it either, on my many Nenthead plans, so it is at least 'good' that independently we came up with the same negative result.
My guess it is 'a new Vein ' found by the VM.

gNick
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8 years ago

#20

Looks like it was a pretty rich area as stope is pretty wide. In fact a lot of Proud's seems to have been pretty good.

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